Probability How many samples of five contian exactly one chip












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Hey guys I hav a task which I cannot solve, can u help me ?



140 semiconductor chips are inspected by choosing a sample of five chips. Assume 10 of the chips do not conform to customer requirements.



How many diffrent samples are possible -->140/5=28 am i right ?
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How many samples of five contain exactly one nonconforming chip ?










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    You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
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Hey guys I hav a task which I cannot solve, can u help me ?



140 semiconductor chips are inspected by choosing a sample of five chips. Assume 10 of the chips do not conform to customer requirements.



How many diffrent samples are possible -->140/5=28 am i right ?
and
How many samples of five contain exactly one nonconforming chip ?










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  • $begingroup$
    You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
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    – David K
    Mar 13 '15 at 13:55














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Hey guys I hav a task which I cannot solve, can u help me ?



140 semiconductor chips are inspected by choosing a sample of five chips. Assume 10 of the chips do not conform to customer requirements.



How many diffrent samples are possible -->140/5=28 am i right ?
and
How many samples of five contain exactly one nonconforming chip ?










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140 semiconductor chips are inspected by choosing a sample of five chips. Assume 10 of the chips do not conform to customer requirements.



How many diffrent samples are possible -->140/5=28 am i right ?
and
How many samples of five contain exactly one nonconforming chip ?







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  • $begingroup$
    You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
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    – David K
    Mar 13 '15 at 13:55


















  • $begingroup$
    You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
    $endgroup$
    – David K
    Mar 13 '15 at 13:55
















$begingroup$
You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
$endgroup$
– David K
Mar 13 '15 at 13:55




$begingroup$
You're answering the question of how many samples there will be if we continue to take five-chip samples from the original set without replacement. That is, if we take the $140$ chips and start putting them in boxes, five chips in each box, we'll fill $28$ boxes with no chips left over. But this result won't help you find the probability that your first sample contains one of the nonconforming chips, which I strongly suspect is the point of this exercise. The answer $416,965,528$ (below) is more applicable to that probability.
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– David K
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In general if you have $n$ objects, and you want to choose $k$ of them, there are $binom{n}{k}$ ways to do so, where
$$ binom{n}{k} = frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}.$$



So in your case $n= 140$ is the number of chips, and we want to take samples of size $k=5$, so there are $binom{140}{5} = 416,965,528$ ways to sample the chips.



To count the number of samples (of size 5) containing exactly one of the 10 faulty chips: first select the faulty chip, there are $binom{10}{1}=10$ ways to do this. Now choose any four chips from the remaining 130 working chips, there are $binom{130}{4}$ ways for this, so in total there are
$$ binom{10}{1} binom{130}{4} = 10 * 11358880 = 113,588,800$$
possible choices.






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    $begingroup$

    In general if you have $n$ objects, and you want to choose $k$ of them, there are $binom{n}{k}$ ways to do so, where
    $$ binom{n}{k} = frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}.$$



    So in your case $n= 140$ is the number of chips, and we want to take samples of size $k=5$, so there are $binom{140}{5} = 416,965,528$ ways to sample the chips.



    To count the number of samples (of size 5) containing exactly one of the 10 faulty chips: first select the faulty chip, there are $binom{10}{1}=10$ ways to do this. Now choose any four chips from the remaining 130 working chips, there are $binom{130}{4}$ ways for this, so in total there are
    $$ binom{10}{1} binom{130}{4} = 10 * 11358880 = 113,588,800$$
    possible choices.






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      $begingroup$

      In general if you have $n$ objects, and you want to choose $k$ of them, there are $binom{n}{k}$ ways to do so, where
      $$ binom{n}{k} = frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}.$$



      So in your case $n= 140$ is the number of chips, and we want to take samples of size $k=5$, so there are $binom{140}{5} = 416,965,528$ ways to sample the chips.



      To count the number of samples (of size 5) containing exactly one of the 10 faulty chips: first select the faulty chip, there are $binom{10}{1}=10$ ways to do this. Now choose any four chips from the remaining 130 working chips, there are $binom{130}{4}$ ways for this, so in total there are
      $$ binom{10}{1} binom{130}{4} = 10 * 11358880 = 113,588,800$$
      possible choices.






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        $begingroup$

        In general if you have $n$ objects, and you want to choose $k$ of them, there are $binom{n}{k}$ ways to do so, where
        $$ binom{n}{k} = frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}.$$



        So in your case $n= 140$ is the number of chips, and we want to take samples of size $k=5$, so there are $binom{140}{5} = 416,965,528$ ways to sample the chips.



        To count the number of samples (of size 5) containing exactly one of the 10 faulty chips: first select the faulty chip, there are $binom{10}{1}=10$ ways to do this. Now choose any four chips from the remaining 130 working chips, there are $binom{130}{4}$ ways for this, so in total there are
        $$ binom{10}{1} binom{130}{4} = 10 * 11358880 = 113,588,800$$
        possible choices.






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        In general if you have $n$ objects, and you want to choose $k$ of them, there are $binom{n}{k}$ ways to do so, where
        $$ binom{n}{k} = frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}.$$



        So in your case $n= 140$ is the number of chips, and we want to take samples of size $k=5$, so there are $binom{140}{5} = 416,965,528$ ways to sample the chips.



        To count the number of samples (of size 5) containing exactly one of the 10 faulty chips: first select the faulty chip, there are $binom{10}{1}=10$ ways to do this. Now choose any four chips from the remaining 130 working chips, there are $binom{130}{4}$ ways for this, so in total there are
        $$ binom{10}{1} binom{130}{4} = 10 * 11358880 = 113,588,800$$
        possible choices.







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        answered Mar 13 '15 at 13:46









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