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“Prove that the additive group of real numbers doesn’t have any proper subgroup with finite index.”
I want to know how to prove this.
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“Prove that the additive group of real numbers doesn’t have any proper subgroup with finite index.”
I want to know how to prove this.
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What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04
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“Prove that the additive group of real numbers doesn’t have any proper subgroup with finite index.”
I want to know how to prove this.
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“Prove that the additive group of real numbers doesn’t have any proper subgroup with finite index.”
I want to know how to prove this.
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What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04
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What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04
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What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04
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Assume that $Gleqmathbb{R}$ is a subgroup with $[mathbb{R}:G]=ninmathbb{Z}_{>0}$. Then for any $xinmathbb{R}$ we have $ncdot xin G$ (why?). In particular, for any $xinmathbb{R}$, we have $x = ncdot(frac{x}{n})in G$ so $mathbb{R}=G$.
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
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Assume that $Gleqmathbb{R}$ is a subgroup with $[mathbb{R}:G]=ninmathbb{Z}_{>0}$. Then for any $xinmathbb{R}$ we have $ncdot xin G$ (why?). In particular, for any $xinmathbb{R}$, we have $x = ncdot(frac{x}{n})in G$ so $mathbb{R}=G$.
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
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Assume that $Gleqmathbb{R}$ is a subgroup with $[mathbb{R}:G]=ninmathbb{Z}_{>0}$. Then for any $xinmathbb{R}$ we have $ncdot xin G$ (why?). In particular, for any $xinmathbb{R}$, we have $x = ncdot(frac{x}{n})in G$ so $mathbb{R}=G$.
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
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Assume that $Gleqmathbb{R}$ is a subgroup with $[mathbb{R}:G]=ninmathbb{Z}_{>0}$. Then for any $xinmathbb{R}$ we have $ncdot xin G$ (why?). In particular, for any $xinmathbb{R}$, we have $x = ncdot(frac{x}{n})in G$ so $mathbb{R}=G$.
Assume that $Gleqmathbb{R}$ is a subgroup with $[mathbb{R}:G]=ninmathbb{Z}_{>0}$. Then for any $xinmathbb{R}$ we have $ncdot xin G$ (why?). In particular, for any $xinmathbb{R}$, we have $x = ncdot(frac{x}{n})in G$ so $mathbb{R}=G$.
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Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
add a comment |
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Thank you! You mean this? f:R→G(x→nx) for any x in R, there exists x/n in R s.t. x=f(x/n)=n(x/n) in G. Hence R=G.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 12:39
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
Yes, that is what I mean.
– Levent
Nov 20 '18 at 15:31
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
I see, thank you very much!
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 21:26
add a comment |
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What's "limited index" mean?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 20 '18 at 5:07
Finite index, I meant. I’m not sure it’s correct in English. Sorry.
– saki
Nov 20 '18 at 6:04