When/why are libstdc++ and libc++ symbols incompatible?












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Setup:



test.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>& allowed_options) {}


include.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>&) noexcept;

int main() {
std::set<std::string> set;
common_config_file_iterator(set);
return 0;
}


test.sh



clang++-7 test.cpp -c -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test.o
g++-8 test.o include.cpp -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test


Output:



Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
"common_config_file_iterator(std::set<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::less<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > > const&)", referenced from:
_main in ccWoGgrX.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


So I did nm -g test.o:



0000000000000000 T __Z27common_config_file_iteratorRKNSt3__13setINS_12basic_stringIcNS_11char_traitsIcEENS_9allocatorIcEEEENS_4lessIS6_EENS4_IS6_EEEE


According to demangler.com, it means:



common_config_file_iterator(std::__1::set<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > > > const&)


Libc++ says:




[Features and Goals:] ABI compatibility with gcc's libstdc++ for some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation.




So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?



Note that I use the macOS assembler.



Curiosity caused by this issue and boost/program-options.










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  • Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

    – Matthieu Brucher
    Nov 21 '18 at 15:47











  • noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

    – Hans Passant
    Nov 21 '18 at 16:31











  • @Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

    – rubenvb
    Nov 22 '18 at 8:43











  • @MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

    – Jonathan Wakely
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:24






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    Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

    – Sebastian Redl
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:29
















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Setup:



test.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>& allowed_options) {}


include.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>&) noexcept;

int main() {
std::set<std::string> set;
common_config_file_iterator(set);
return 0;
}


test.sh



clang++-7 test.cpp -c -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test.o
g++-8 test.o include.cpp -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test


Output:



Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
"common_config_file_iterator(std::set<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::less<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > > const&)", referenced from:
_main in ccWoGgrX.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


So I did nm -g test.o:



0000000000000000 T __Z27common_config_file_iteratorRKNSt3__13setINS_12basic_stringIcNS_11char_traitsIcEENS_9allocatorIcEEEENS_4lessIS6_EENS4_IS6_EEEE


According to demangler.com, it means:



common_config_file_iterator(std::__1::set<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > > > const&)


Libc++ says:




[Features and Goals:] ABI compatibility with gcc's libstdc++ for some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation.




So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?



Note that I use the macOS assembler.



Curiosity caused by this issue and boost/program-options.










share|improve this question























  • Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

    – Matthieu Brucher
    Nov 21 '18 at 15:47











  • noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

    – Hans Passant
    Nov 21 '18 at 16:31











  • @Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

    – rubenvb
    Nov 22 '18 at 8:43











  • @MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

    – Jonathan Wakely
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:24






  • 1





    Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

    – Sebastian Redl
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:29














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Setup:



test.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>& allowed_options) {}


include.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>&) noexcept;

int main() {
std::set<std::string> set;
common_config_file_iterator(set);
return 0;
}


test.sh



clang++-7 test.cpp -c -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test.o
g++-8 test.o include.cpp -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test


Output:



Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
"common_config_file_iterator(std::set<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::less<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > > const&)", referenced from:
_main in ccWoGgrX.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


So I did nm -g test.o:



0000000000000000 T __Z27common_config_file_iteratorRKNSt3__13setINS_12basic_stringIcNS_11char_traitsIcEENS_9allocatorIcEEEENS_4lessIS6_EENS4_IS6_EEEE


According to demangler.com, it means:



common_config_file_iterator(std::__1::set<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > > > const&)


Libc++ says:




[Features and Goals:] ABI compatibility with gcc's libstdc++ for some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation.




So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?



Note that I use the macOS assembler.



Curiosity caused by this issue and boost/program-options.










share|improve this question














Setup:



test.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>& allowed_options) {}


include.cpp



#include <set>
#include <string>

void common_config_file_iterator(const std::set<std::string>&) noexcept;

int main() {
std::set<std::string> set;
common_config_file_iterator(set);
return 0;
}


test.sh



clang++-7 test.cpp -c -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test.o
g++-8 test.o include.cpp -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -o test


Output:



Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64:
"common_config_file_iterator(std::set<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >, std::less<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > >, std::allocator<std::__cxx11::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > > > const&)", referenced from:
_main in ccWoGgrX.o
ld: symbol(s) not found for architecture x86_64
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status


So I did nm -g test.o:



0000000000000000 T __Z27common_config_file_iteratorRKNSt3__13setINS_12basic_stringIcNS_11char_traitsIcEENS_9allocatorIcEEEENS_4lessIS6_EENS4_IS6_EEEE


According to demangler.com, it means:



common_config_file_iterator(std::__1::set<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> >, std::__1::less<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > >, std::__1::allocator<std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char> > > > const&)


Libc++ says:




[Features and Goals:] ABI compatibility with gcc's libstdc++ for some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation.




So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?



Note that I use the macOS assembler.



Curiosity caused by this issue and boost/program-options.







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  • Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

    – Matthieu Brucher
    Nov 21 '18 at 15:47











  • noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

    – Hans Passant
    Nov 21 '18 at 16:31











  • @Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

    – rubenvb
    Nov 22 '18 at 8:43











  • @MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

    – Jonathan Wakely
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:24






  • 1





    Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

    – Sebastian Redl
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:29



















  • Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

    – Matthieu Brucher
    Nov 21 '18 at 15:47











  • noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

    – Hans Passant
    Nov 21 '18 at 16:31











  • @Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

    – rubenvb
    Nov 22 '18 at 8:43











  • @MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

    – Jonathan Wakely
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:24






  • 1





    Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

    – Sebastian Redl
    Nov 23 '18 at 11:29

















Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

– Matthieu Brucher
Nov 21 '18 at 15:47





Goal may mean that they don't agree at this stage?

– Matthieu Brucher
Nov 21 '18 at 15:47













noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

– Hans Passant
Nov 21 '18 at 16:31





noexcept is missing, it is part of the function signature.

– Hans Passant
Nov 21 '18 at 16:31













@Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

– rubenvb
Nov 22 '18 at 8:43





@Hans but is noexcept also part of the ABI?

– rubenvb
Nov 22 '18 at 8:43













@MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

– Jonathan Wakely
Nov 23 '18 at 11:24





@MatthieuBrucher no, it means "some low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation" not std::set and std::string.

– Jonathan Wakely
Nov 23 '18 at 11:24




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Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

– Sebastian Redl
Nov 23 '18 at 11:29





Did you maybe read the goal as "except for" instead of just "for"? You disable RTTI and exceptions and worry about std::allocator as if you think that exception objects, rtti and memory allocation are the things that are not compatible, when in fact they are the only things that are.

– Sebastian Redl
Nov 23 '18 at 11:29












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So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?




What? No. It's everything in your example.



The doc you quoted clearly says the goal is compatibility for "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation".



std::set and std::string are not "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation". They are very definitely not compatible between libc++ and libstdc++, which are completely different libraries with completely different implementations.



The compatible pieces are things like std::type_info and std::exception (and the derived exception types in <stdexcept>) because those are part of the basic language runtime. Anything above that, such as containers, strings, algorithms, I/O, locales etc. is not compatible.






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    So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?




    What? No. It's everything in your example.



    The doc you quoted clearly says the goal is compatibility for "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation".



    std::set and std::string are not "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation". They are very definitely not compatible between libc++ and libstdc++, which are completely different libraries with completely different implementations.



    The compatible pieces are things like std::type_info and std::exception (and the derived exception types in <stdexcept>) because those are part of the basic language runtime. Anything above that, such as containers, strings, algorithms, I/O, locales etc. is not compatible.






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      So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?




      What? No. It's everything in your example.



      The doc you quoted clearly says the goal is compatibility for "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation".



      std::set and std::string are not "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation". They are very definitely not compatible between libc++ and libstdc++, which are completely different libraries with completely different implementations.



      The compatible pieces are things like std::type_info and std::exception (and the derived exception types in <stdexcept>) because those are part of the basic language runtime. Anything above that, such as containers, strings, algorithms, I/O, locales etc. is not compatible.






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        So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?




        What? No. It's everything in your example.



        The doc you quoted clearly says the goal is compatibility for "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation".



        std::set and std::string are not "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation". They are very definitely not compatible between libc++ and libstdc++, which are completely different libraries with completely different implementations.



        The compatible pieces are things like std::type_info and std::exception (and the derived exception types in <stdexcept>) because those are part of the basic language runtime. Anything above that, such as containers, strings, algorithms, I/O, locales etc. is not compatible.






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        So, is the problem std::allocator<char>?




        What? No. It's everything in your example.



        The doc you quoted clearly says the goal is compatibility for "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation".



        std::set and std::string are not "low-level features such as exception objects, rtti and memory allocation". They are very definitely not compatible between libc++ and libstdc++, which are completely different libraries with completely different implementations.



        The compatible pieces are things like std::type_info and std::exception (and the derived exception types in <stdexcept>) because those are part of the basic language runtime. Anything above that, such as containers, strings, algorithms, I/O, locales etc. is not compatible.







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