Let $ Xsim exp(lambda) $ and let $ (U|X=k) sim U[x-1,x+1] $ for $ xge 0 $. Why $ P(X=k) ne 0 $?












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Iv'e encountered the following definition:




$Xsim exp(lambda)$ and let $(U|X=x) sim mathcal U[x-1,x+1]$ for $xgeq 0$.




Now I know that since $X$ is continuous, $P(X=x)=0$ for any $x$. So how can we even discuss $(U|X=x)$?










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    I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
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    – Shashi
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    @Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
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    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:32






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    Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
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    – Harnak
    Jan 29 at 10:35








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    The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
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    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:37










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    @Shashi yes, thanks! :)
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    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:39
















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$begingroup$


Iv'e encountered the following definition:




$Xsim exp(lambda)$ and let $(U|X=x) sim mathcal U[x-1,x+1]$ for $xgeq 0$.




Now I know that since $X$ is continuous, $P(X=x)=0$ for any $x$. So how can we even discuss $(U|X=x)$?










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  • $begingroup$
    I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:32






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – Harnak
    Jan 29 at 10:35








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:37










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes, thanks! :)
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:39














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$begingroup$


Iv'e encountered the following definition:




$Xsim exp(lambda)$ and let $(U|X=x) sim mathcal U[x-1,x+1]$ for $xgeq 0$.




Now I know that since $X$ is continuous, $P(X=x)=0$ for any $x$. So how can we even discuss $(U|X=x)$?










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Iv'e encountered the following definition:




$Xsim exp(lambda)$ and let $(U|X=x) sim mathcal U[x-1,x+1]$ for $xgeq 0$.




Now I know that since $X$ is continuous, $P(X=x)=0$ for any $x$. So how can we even discuss $(U|X=x)$?







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  • $begingroup$
    I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:32






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – Harnak
    Jan 29 at 10:35








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:37










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes, thanks! :)
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:39


















  • $begingroup$
    I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:28










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:32






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
    $endgroup$
    – Harnak
    Jan 29 at 10:35








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
    $endgroup$
    – Shashi
    Jan 29 at 10:37










  • $begingroup$
    @Shashi yes, thanks! :)
    $endgroup$
    – superuser123
    Jan 29 at 10:39
















$begingroup$
I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
$endgroup$
– Shashi
Jan 29 at 10:28




$begingroup$
I don't know where you have encountered that, but I hope you have encountered the definition of conditional distribution before that. So do you know the definition of conditional distribution?
$endgroup$
– Shashi
Jan 29 at 10:28












$begingroup$
@Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
$endgroup$
– superuser123
Jan 29 at 10:32




$begingroup$
@Shashi yes I do but I don't know how to apply that here, If $P(X=x)=0$ how does it even possible to handle?
$endgroup$
– superuser123
Jan 29 at 10:32




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1




$begingroup$
Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
$endgroup$
– Harnak
Jan 29 at 10:35






$begingroup$
Informally you may think of $U | , X = x$ as $U | , X in (x - dx, x + dx)$. This is not a rigorous way of explaining but it should help your intuition.
$endgroup$
– Harnak
Jan 29 at 10:35






1




1




$begingroup$
The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
$endgroup$
– Shashi
Jan 29 at 10:37




$begingroup$
The conditional density of $(U|X=x) $ is simply $$frac{f_{U, X} (u, x) } {f_X(x)} $$ So there is nowhere where you encounter any troubles with the fact that $P(X=x) =0$. Is this clear?
$endgroup$
– Shashi
Jan 29 at 10:37












$begingroup$
@Shashi yes, thanks! :)
$endgroup$
– superuser123
Jan 29 at 10:39




$begingroup$
@Shashi yes, thanks! :)
$endgroup$
– superuser123
Jan 29 at 10:39










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