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We break a unit length stick at two randomly chosen points.



(a) Describe the natural probability space for this experiment.



(b) Consider the event that one of the resulting three sticks is larger than $frac{1}{2}.$ Give a description of this event in the sample space of your probability space.



(c) Find the probability of the event in (b).





First we note that the stick can be model by the unit interval $[0,1].$



For part (a), I constructed the following probability space
$$Omega={ omega=[0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1] : 0leq x_{i}<x_{i+1}leq 1 space text{for} space i=1}.$$



For part (b), we call our event $A$. Then we have that
$$A={ [0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1]: |x_1-0|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |x_1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} }.$$



For part (c), we can consider the complement, which is the event where all three resulting sticks have length smaller than $frac{1}{2}.$



I'm having difficulty conceptualizing this case. I think we it is easier to deal the complement, and then use the axioms, but I do not see how we could write the complement as a union of disjoint sets.



Any help is appreciated.





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    I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
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    I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
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$begingroup$


We break a unit length stick at two randomly chosen points.



(a) Describe the natural probability space for this experiment.



(b) Consider the event that one of the resulting three sticks is larger than $frac{1}{2}.$ Give a description of this event in the sample space of your probability space.



(c) Find the probability of the event in (b).





First we note that the stick can be model by the unit interval $[0,1].$



For part (a), I constructed the following probability space
$$Omega={ omega=[0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1] : 0leq x_{i}<x_{i+1}leq 1 space text{for} space i=1}.$$



For part (b), we call our event $A$. Then we have that
$$A={ [0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1]: |x_1-0|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |x_1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} }.$$



For part (c), we can consider the complement, which is the event where all three resulting sticks have length smaller than $frac{1}{2}.$



I'm having difficulty conceptualizing this case. I think we it is easier to deal the complement, and then use the axioms, but I do not see how we could write the complement as a union of disjoint sets.



Any help is appreciated.





Is the approach in (a) and (b) above correct?










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    I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
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    – Arthur
    Feb 1 at 7:28










  • $begingroup$
    I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
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    – Shaq
    Feb 1 at 7:35
















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$begingroup$


We break a unit length stick at two randomly chosen points.



(a) Describe the natural probability space for this experiment.



(b) Consider the event that one of the resulting three sticks is larger than $frac{1}{2}.$ Give a description of this event in the sample space of your probability space.



(c) Find the probability of the event in (b).





First we note that the stick can be model by the unit interval $[0,1].$



For part (a), I constructed the following probability space
$$Omega={ omega=[0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1] : 0leq x_{i}<x_{i+1}leq 1 space text{for} space i=1}.$$



For part (b), we call our event $A$. Then we have that
$$A={ [0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1]: |x_1-0|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |x_1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} }.$$



For part (c), we can consider the complement, which is the event where all three resulting sticks have length smaller than $frac{1}{2}.$



I'm having difficulty conceptualizing this case. I think we it is easier to deal the complement, and then use the axioms, but I do not see how we could write the complement as a union of disjoint sets.



Any help is appreciated.





Is the approach in (a) and (b) above correct?










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We break a unit length stick at two randomly chosen points.



(a) Describe the natural probability space for this experiment.



(b) Consider the event that one of the resulting three sticks is larger than $frac{1}{2}.$ Give a description of this event in the sample space of your probability space.



(c) Find the probability of the event in (b).





First we note that the stick can be model by the unit interval $[0,1].$



For part (a), I constructed the following probability space
$$Omega={ omega=[0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1] : 0leq x_{i}<x_{i+1}leq 1 space text{for} space i=1}.$$



For part (b), we call our event $A$. Then we have that
$$A={ [0,x_1]cup[x_1,x_2]cup[x_2,1]: |x_1-0|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |x_1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} space text{or} space |1-x_2|>frac{1}{2} }.$$



For part (c), we can consider the complement, which is the event where all three resulting sticks have length smaller than $frac{1}{2}.$



I'm having difficulty conceptualizing this case. I think we it is easier to deal the complement, and then use the axioms, but I do not see how we could write the complement as a union of disjoint sets.



Any help is appreciated.





Is the approach in (a) and (b) above correct?







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    I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
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    – Arthur
    Feb 1 at 7:28










  • $begingroup$
    I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
    $endgroup$
    – Shaq
    Feb 1 at 7:35




















  • $begingroup$
    I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
    $endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Feb 1 at 7:28










  • $begingroup$
    I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
    $endgroup$
    – Shaq
    Feb 1 at 7:35


















$begingroup$
I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
$endgroup$
– Arthur
Feb 1 at 7:28




$begingroup$
I would probably model the two cuts as a uniformly chosen point in $[0,1]times[0,1]$.
$endgroup$
– Arthur
Feb 1 at 7:28












$begingroup$
I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
$endgroup$
– Shaq
Feb 1 at 7:35






$begingroup$
I would model it with X~U[0,1] and you have samples $X_1$ and $X_2$. Than b is calculating $P(X_1<frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 <frac{1}{2}) + P(X_1>frac{1}{2} wedge X_2 >frac{1}{2}) + P(|X_1-X_2|>frac{1}{2})$ Note you can sum them because 2 events cannot happen together
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(a)



$$
(Omega,mathcal{F},mathsf{P})=([0,1]^2,mathcal{B}([0,1]^2),lambdaotimeslambda),
$$



where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



(b) Letting $omega_{(1)}=omega_1wedgeomega_2$ and $omega_{(2)}=omega_1veeomega_2$, the required event is



$$
A=A_1cup A_2cup A_3,
$$

where
begin{align}
A_1&={omegainOmega:omega_{(1)}>1/2},\
A_2&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}<1/2}, quadtext{and} \
A_3&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}-omega_{(1)}>1/2}.
end{align}



(c) Since $A_1$, $A_2$, and $A_3$ are disjoint,



begin{align}
mathsf{P}(A)&=mathsf{P}(A_1)+mathsf{P}(A_2)+mathsf{P}(A_3) \
&=(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2=3/4.
end{align}






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    (a)



    $$
    (Omega,mathcal{F},mathsf{P})=([0,1]^2,mathcal{B}([0,1]^2),lambdaotimeslambda),
    $$



    where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



    (b) Letting $omega_{(1)}=omega_1wedgeomega_2$ and $omega_{(2)}=omega_1veeomega_2$, the required event is



    $$
    A=A_1cup A_2cup A_3,
    $$

    where
    begin{align}
    A_1&={omegainOmega:omega_{(1)}>1/2},\
    A_2&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}<1/2}, quadtext{and} \
    A_3&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}-omega_{(1)}>1/2}.
    end{align}



    (c) Since $A_1$, $A_2$, and $A_3$ are disjoint,



    begin{align}
    mathsf{P}(A)&=mathsf{P}(A_1)+mathsf{P}(A_2)+mathsf{P}(A_3) \
    &=(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2=3/4.
    end{align}






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      (a)



      $$
      (Omega,mathcal{F},mathsf{P})=([0,1]^2,mathcal{B}([0,1]^2),lambdaotimeslambda),
      $$



      where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



      (b) Letting $omega_{(1)}=omega_1wedgeomega_2$ and $omega_{(2)}=omega_1veeomega_2$, the required event is



      $$
      A=A_1cup A_2cup A_3,
      $$

      where
      begin{align}
      A_1&={omegainOmega:omega_{(1)}>1/2},\
      A_2&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}<1/2}, quadtext{and} \
      A_3&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}-omega_{(1)}>1/2}.
      end{align}



      (c) Since $A_1$, $A_2$, and $A_3$ are disjoint,



      begin{align}
      mathsf{P}(A)&=mathsf{P}(A_1)+mathsf{P}(A_2)+mathsf{P}(A_3) \
      &=(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2=3/4.
      end{align}






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        (a)



        $$
        (Omega,mathcal{F},mathsf{P})=([0,1]^2,mathcal{B}([0,1]^2),lambdaotimeslambda),
        $$



        where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



        (b) Letting $omega_{(1)}=omega_1wedgeomega_2$ and $omega_{(2)}=omega_1veeomega_2$, the required event is



        $$
        A=A_1cup A_2cup A_3,
        $$

        where
        begin{align}
        A_1&={omegainOmega:omega_{(1)}>1/2},\
        A_2&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}<1/2}, quadtext{and} \
        A_3&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}-omega_{(1)}>1/2}.
        end{align}



        (c) Since $A_1$, $A_2$, and $A_3$ are disjoint,



        begin{align}
        mathsf{P}(A)&=mathsf{P}(A_1)+mathsf{P}(A_2)+mathsf{P}(A_3) \
        &=(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2=3/4.
        end{align}






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        (a)



        $$
        (Omega,mathcal{F},mathsf{P})=([0,1]^2,mathcal{B}([0,1]^2),lambdaotimeslambda),
        $$



        where $lambda$ is the Lebesgue measure on $[0,1]$.



        (b) Letting $omega_{(1)}=omega_1wedgeomega_2$ and $omega_{(2)}=omega_1veeomega_2$, the required event is



        $$
        A=A_1cup A_2cup A_3,
        $$

        where
        begin{align}
        A_1&={omegainOmega:omega_{(1)}>1/2},\
        A_2&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}<1/2}, quadtext{and} \
        A_3&={omegainOmega:omega_{(2)}-omega_{(1)}>1/2}.
        end{align}



        (c) Since $A_1$, $A_2$, and $A_3$ are disjoint,



        begin{align}
        mathsf{P}(A)&=mathsf{P}(A_1)+mathsf{P}(A_2)+mathsf{P}(A_3) \
        &=(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2+(1/2)^2=3/4.
        end{align}







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