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Evaluate $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}$$



I think it needs to use L'Hospital Rule.



So, I first calculate $frac {d x^x}{dx}=
x^x(ln x+1)$
.



And then $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(ln x+1)}{2^x(ln 2)-2x}$$



It seems that I need to use L'Hospital Rule again. But when I do it, the thing inside the limit becomes more complicated.



How should I do next? Or maybe my way is false?










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    Evaluate $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}$$



    I think it needs to use L'Hospital Rule.



    So, I first calculate $frac {d x^x}{dx}=
    x^x(ln x+1)$
    .



    And then $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(ln x+1)}{2^x(ln 2)-2x}$$



    It seems that I need to use L'Hospital Rule again. But when I do it, the thing inside the limit becomes more complicated.



    How should I do next? Or maybe my way is false?










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      Evaluate $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}$$



      I think it needs to use L'Hospital Rule.



      So, I first calculate $frac {d x^x}{dx}=
      x^x(ln x+1)$
      .



      And then $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(ln x+1)}{2^x(ln 2)-2x}$$



      It seems that I need to use L'Hospital Rule again. But when I do it, the thing inside the limit becomes more complicated.



      How should I do next? Or maybe my way is false?










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      Evaluate $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}$$



      I think it needs to use L'Hospital Rule.



      So, I first calculate $frac {d x^x}{dx}=
      x^x(ln x+1)$
      .



      And then $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(ln x+1)}{2^x(ln 2)-2x}$$



      It seems that I need to use L'Hospital Rule again. But when I do it, the thing inside the limit becomes more complicated.



      How should I do next? Or maybe my way is false?







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          $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(1-frac4{x^x})}{2^x(1-frac{x^2}{2^x})}=lim_{xto infty}Big(frac x2Big)^xcdotBigg[frac{1-frac4{x^x}}{1-frac{x^2}{2^x}}Bigg]toinfty$$The latter tends to $1$, while the former tends to $infty$.






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            How to evaluate $lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac {4}{x^x}}{1-frac {x^2}{2^x}}$
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            Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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          We can say that $4ll x^x$ and $x^2ll2^x$ as $x$ grows large so



          $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2} sim lim_{xto infty}frac{x^x}{2^x} = lim_{xto infty} (frac{x}{2})^x = infty$$






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            You’re better off avoiding L’Hôpital when solving limits. Keep it simple and divide all the terms by $x^x$:



            $$lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac{4}{x^x}}{frac{2^x}{x^x}-frac{x^2}{x^x}}$$



            And now, you can tell that $frac{4}{x^x}$, $frac{2^x}{x^x}$, and $frac{x^2}{x^x}$ all tend to $0$, and since $2^x > x^2$ as $x$ grows large, the denominator tends to $0^+$. Hence, the limit becomes $frac{1}{0^+} = +infty$.






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              Quick & dirty (though correct) method:



              $4$ and $x^2$ are neglectible in front of the exponentials. Then the expression is asymptotic to



              $$left(frac x2right)^x$$ which grows unboundedly.






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                Hint



                for $x$ being sufficiently large ($x>5$) we have
                $$2^x-x^2<2^x$$and $$x^x-4>{x^xover 2}$$therefore$${x^x-4over 2^x-x^2}>{1over 2}left({xover 2}right)^xto infty$$






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                  $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(1-frac4{x^x})}{2^x(1-frac{x^2}{2^x})}=lim_{xto infty}Big(frac x2Big)^xcdotBigg[frac{1-frac4{x^x}}{1-frac{x^2}{2^x}}Bigg]toinfty$$The latter tends to $1$, while the former tends to $infty$.






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                    How to evaluate $lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac {4}{x^x}}{1-frac {x^2}{2^x}}$
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                    Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                  $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(1-frac4{x^x})}{2^x(1-frac{x^2}{2^x})}=lim_{xto infty}Big(frac x2Big)^xcdotBigg[frac{1-frac4{x^x}}{1-frac{x^2}{2^x}}Bigg]toinfty$$The latter tends to $1$, while the former tends to $infty$.






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                    Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                  $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(1-frac4{x^x})}{2^x(1-frac{x^2}{2^x})}=lim_{xto infty}Big(frac x2Big)^xcdotBigg[frac{1-frac4{x^x}}{1-frac{x^2}{2^x}}Bigg]toinfty$$The latter tends to $1$, while the former tends to $infty$.






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                  $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2}=lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x(1-frac4{x^x})}{2^x(1-frac{x^2}{2^x})}=lim_{xto infty}Big(frac x2Big)^xcdotBigg[frac{1-frac4{x^x}}{1-frac{x^2}{2^x}}Bigg]toinfty$$The latter tends to $1$, while the former tends to $infty$.







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                    Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                    Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                  Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                  Jan 9 at 13:07




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                  Both $frac{4}{x^x}$ and $frac{x^2}{2^x}$ tend to $0$ for large $x$. So it becomes $frac{1}{1} = 1$.
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                  We can say that $4ll x^x$ and $x^2ll2^x$ as $x$ grows large so



                  $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2} sim lim_{xto infty}frac{x^x}{2^x} = lim_{xto infty} (frac{x}{2})^x = infty$$






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                    We can say that $4ll x^x$ and $x^2ll2^x$ as $x$ grows large so



                    $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2} sim lim_{xto infty}frac{x^x}{2^x} = lim_{xto infty} (frac{x}{2})^x = infty$$






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                      We can say that $4ll x^x$ and $x^2ll2^x$ as $x$ grows large so



                      $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2} sim lim_{xto infty}frac{x^x}{2^x} = lim_{xto infty} (frac{x}{2})^x = infty$$






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                      We can say that $4ll x^x$ and $x^2ll2^x$ as $x$ grows large so



                      $$lim_{xto infty} frac {x^x-4}{2^x-x^2} sim lim_{xto infty}frac{x^x}{2^x} = lim_{xto infty} (frac{x}{2})^x = infty$$







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                          You’re better off avoiding L’Hôpital when solving limits. Keep it simple and divide all the terms by $x^x$:



                          $$lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac{4}{x^x}}{frac{2^x}{x^x}-frac{x^2}{x^x}}$$



                          And now, you can tell that $frac{4}{x^x}$, $frac{2^x}{x^x}$, and $frac{x^2}{x^x}$ all tend to $0$, and since $2^x > x^2$ as $x$ grows large, the denominator tends to $0^+$. Hence, the limit becomes $frac{1}{0^+} = +infty$.






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                            You’re better off avoiding L’Hôpital when solving limits. Keep it simple and divide all the terms by $x^x$:



                            $$lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac{4}{x^x}}{frac{2^x}{x^x}-frac{x^2}{x^x}}$$



                            And now, you can tell that $frac{4}{x^x}$, $frac{2^x}{x^x}$, and $frac{x^2}{x^x}$ all tend to $0$, and since $2^x > x^2$ as $x$ grows large, the denominator tends to $0^+$. Hence, the limit becomes $frac{1}{0^+} = +infty$.






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                              You’re better off avoiding L’Hôpital when solving limits. Keep it simple and divide all the terms by $x^x$:



                              $$lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac{4}{x^x}}{frac{2^x}{x^x}-frac{x^2}{x^x}}$$



                              And now, you can tell that $frac{4}{x^x}$, $frac{2^x}{x^x}$, and $frac{x^2}{x^x}$ all tend to $0$, and since $2^x > x^2$ as $x$ grows large, the denominator tends to $0^+$. Hence, the limit becomes $frac{1}{0^+} = +infty$.






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                              You’re better off avoiding L’Hôpital when solving limits. Keep it simple and divide all the terms by $x^x$:



                              $$lim_{xto infty} frac {1-frac{4}{x^x}}{frac{2^x}{x^x}-frac{x^2}{x^x}}$$



                              And now, you can tell that $frac{4}{x^x}$, $frac{2^x}{x^x}$, and $frac{x^2}{x^x}$ all tend to $0$, and since $2^x > x^2$ as $x$ grows large, the denominator tends to $0^+$. Hence, the limit becomes $frac{1}{0^+} = +infty$.







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                                  Quick & dirty (though correct) method:



                                  $4$ and $x^2$ are neglectible in front of the exponentials. Then the expression is asymptotic to



                                  $$left(frac x2right)^x$$ which grows unboundedly.






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                                    Quick & dirty (though correct) method:



                                    $4$ and $x^2$ are neglectible in front of the exponentials. Then the expression is asymptotic to



                                    $$left(frac x2right)^x$$ which grows unboundedly.






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                                      Quick & dirty (though correct) method:



                                      $4$ and $x^2$ are neglectible in front of the exponentials. Then the expression is asymptotic to



                                      $$left(frac x2right)^x$$ which grows unboundedly.






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                                      Quick & dirty (though correct) method:



                                      $4$ and $x^2$ are neglectible in front of the exponentials. Then the expression is asymptotic to



                                      $$left(frac x2right)^x$$ which grows unboundedly.







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                                          for $x$ being sufficiently large ($x>5$) we have
                                          $$2^x-x^2<2^x$$and $$x^x-4>{x^xover 2}$$therefore$${x^x-4over 2^x-x^2}>{1over 2}left({xover 2}right)^xto infty$$






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                                            for $x$ being sufficiently large ($x>5$) we have
                                            $$2^x-x^2<2^x$$and $$x^x-4>{x^xover 2}$$therefore$${x^x-4over 2^x-x^2}>{1over 2}left({xover 2}right)^xto infty$$






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                                              for $x$ being sufficiently large ($x>5$) we have
                                              $$2^x-x^2<2^x$$and $$x^x-4>{x^xover 2}$$therefore$${x^x-4over 2^x-x^2}>{1over 2}left({xover 2}right)^xto infty$$






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                                              for $x$ being sufficiently large ($x>5$) we have
                                              $$2^x-x^2<2^x$$and $$x^x-4>{x^xover 2}$$therefore$${x^x-4over 2^x-x^2}>{1over 2}left({xover 2}right)^xto infty$$







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