Finite Math (Probability/Venn Diagram)












0












$begingroup$


13) A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV? Express the answer as a percentage.



Is this problem stated correctly? How can $36%$ of the people be entertained by both books and TV, when only $25%$ of the people are entertained by reading books?



EDIT



Here are two other questions from the exam, that the instructor said followed the same logic as the question above.



14) Of the coffee makers sold in an appliance store, $5.0%$ have either a faulty switch or a defective cord, $1.6%$ have a faulty switch, and $0.2%$ have both defects. What is the probability that a coffee maker will have a defective cord? Express the answer as a percentage.



15) A survey of senior citizens at a doctor's office shows that $42%$ take blood pressure-lowering medication, $45%$ take cholesterol-lowering medication, and $13%$ take both medications. What is the probability that senior citizen takes either blood pressure-lowering or cholesterol-lowering medication? Express the answer as a percentage.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$

















    0












    $begingroup$


    13) A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV? Express the answer as a percentage.



    Is this problem stated correctly? How can $36%$ of the people be entertained by both books and TV, when only $25%$ of the people are entertained by reading books?



    EDIT



    Here are two other questions from the exam, that the instructor said followed the same logic as the question above.



    14) Of the coffee makers sold in an appliance store, $5.0%$ have either a faulty switch or a defective cord, $1.6%$ have a faulty switch, and $0.2%$ have both defects. What is the probability that a coffee maker will have a defective cord? Express the answer as a percentage.



    15) A survey of senior citizens at a doctor's office shows that $42%$ take blood pressure-lowering medication, $45%$ take cholesterol-lowering medication, and $13%$ take both medications. What is the probability that senior citizen takes either blood pressure-lowering or cholesterol-lowering medication? Express the answer as a percentage.










    share|cite|improve this question











    $endgroup$















      0












      0








      0





      $begingroup$


      13) A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV? Express the answer as a percentage.



      Is this problem stated correctly? How can $36%$ of the people be entertained by both books and TV, when only $25%$ of the people are entertained by reading books?



      EDIT



      Here are two other questions from the exam, that the instructor said followed the same logic as the question above.



      14) Of the coffee makers sold in an appliance store, $5.0%$ have either a faulty switch or a defective cord, $1.6%$ have a faulty switch, and $0.2%$ have both defects. What is the probability that a coffee maker will have a defective cord? Express the answer as a percentage.



      15) A survey of senior citizens at a doctor's office shows that $42%$ take blood pressure-lowering medication, $45%$ take cholesterol-lowering medication, and $13%$ take both medications. What is the probability that senior citizen takes either blood pressure-lowering or cholesterol-lowering medication? Express the answer as a percentage.










      share|cite|improve this question











      $endgroup$




      13) A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV? Express the answer as a percentage.



      Is this problem stated correctly? How can $36%$ of the people be entertained by both books and TV, when only $25%$ of the people are entertained by reading books?



      EDIT



      Here are two other questions from the exam, that the instructor said followed the same logic as the question above.



      14) Of the coffee makers sold in an appliance store, $5.0%$ have either a faulty switch or a defective cord, $1.6%$ have a faulty switch, and $0.2%$ have both defects. What is the probability that a coffee maker will have a defective cord? Express the answer as a percentage.



      15) A survey of senior citizens at a doctor's office shows that $42%$ take blood pressure-lowering medication, $45%$ take cholesterol-lowering medication, and $13%$ take both medications. What is the probability that senior citizen takes either blood pressure-lowering or cholesterol-lowering medication? Express the answer as a percentage.







      probability






      share|cite|improve this question















      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question








      edited Apr 5 '14 at 20:45







      Jesse

















      asked Apr 5 '14 at 2:17









      JesseJesse

      521111




      521111






















          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes


















          0












          $begingroup$

          The problem is stated correctly. Usually, there'd be a problem: $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both. In this case, since $25+39+36=100$, I am led to believe that the question should, when stated more rigorously, read:




          A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained only by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by only by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained only by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV?




          Other than that, the question is fine.



          Edit: In my example, i.e., $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.75-0.50=0.5=50%$$



          Similarly, for your problem,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.39-0.36=0.28=28%$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 3:32










          • $begingroup$
            @Jesse See my edited answer.
            $endgroup$
            – user122283
            Apr 5 '14 at 4:16










          • $begingroup$
            When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:12





















          0












          $begingroup$

          You use the inclusion-exclusion principle. $Pr(A cup B) = Pr(A) + Pr(B) - Pr(A cap B)$. Your exam questions are worded correctly and don't have the same problem as the original question you posed did. It always must be true that $Pr(A cap B) le min(Pr(A), Pr(B))$, since $A cap B subseteq A$ and $A cap B subseteq B$.



          For question
          14) Let $F$ denote the event of a faulty switch, and $D$ denote the event of a defective cord. You are told, $P(F cup D) = 0.05, P(F) = 0.016$, and $P(Fcap D) = 0.002$. From the inclusion-exclusion principle you know



          $P(F cup D) = P(F) + P(D) - P(F cap D) Rightarrow P(D) = P(F cup D) - P(F) + P(F cap D) =$ $0.05 - 0.016 + 0.002 = 0.036$.



          Question 15) Follow's a similar procedure (apply inclusion-exclusion principle) to get $.42 + .45 - 0.13 = 0.74$.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 18:26










          • $begingroup$
            So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 19:35










          • $begingroup$
            The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:10










          • $begingroup$
            This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:21










          • $begingroup$
            ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:27











          Your Answer





          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
          return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
          StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
          StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
          });
          });
          }, "mathjax-editing");

          StackExchange.ready(function() {
          var channelOptions = {
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "69"
          };
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
          createEditor();
          });
          }
          else {
          createEditor();
          }
          });

          function createEditor() {
          StackExchange.prepareEditor({
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
          convertImagesToLinks: true,
          noModals: true,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: 10,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          imageUploader: {
          brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
          contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
          allowUrls: true
          },
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          });


          }
          });














          draft saved

          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f740282%2ffinite-math-probability-venn-diagram%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown

























          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes








          2 Answers
          2






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes









          0












          $begingroup$

          The problem is stated correctly. Usually, there'd be a problem: $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both. In this case, since $25+39+36=100$, I am led to believe that the question should, when stated more rigorously, read:




          A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained only by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by only by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained only by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV?




          Other than that, the question is fine.



          Edit: In my example, i.e., $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.75-0.50=0.5=50%$$



          Similarly, for your problem,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.39-0.36=0.28=28%$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 3:32










          • $begingroup$
            @Jesse See my edited answer.
            $endgroup$
            – user122283
            Apr 5 '14 at 4:16










          • $begingroup$
            When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:12


















          0












          $begingroup$

          The problem is stated correctly. Usually, there'd be a problem: $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both. In this case, since $25+39+36=100$, I am led to believe that the question should, when stated more rigorously, read:




          A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained only by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by only by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained only by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV?




          Other than that, the question is fine.



          Edit: In my example, i.e., $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.75-0.50=0.5=50%$$



          Similarly, for your problem,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.39-0.36=0.28=28%$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 3:32










          • $begingroup$
            @Jesse See my edited answer.
            $endgroup$
            – user122283
            Apr 5 '14 at 4:16










          • $begingroup$
            When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:12
















          0












          0








          0





          $begingroup$

          The problem is stated correctly. Usually, there'd be a problem: $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both. In this case, since $25+39+36=100$, I am led to believe that the question should, when stated more rigorously, read:




          A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained only by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by only by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained only by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV?




          Other than that, the question is fine.



          Edit: In my example, i.e., $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.75-0.50=0.5=50%$$



          Similarly, for your problem,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.39-0.36=0.28=28%$$






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          The problem is stated correctly. Usually, there'd be a problem: $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both. In this case, since $25+39+36=100$, I am led to believe that the question should, when stated more rigorously, read:




          A survey revealed that $25%$ of people are entertained only by reading books, $39%$ are entertained by only by watching TV, and $36%$ are entertained only by both books and TV. What is the probability that a person will be entertained by either books or TV?




          Other than that, the question is fine.



          Edit: In my example, i.e., $25%$ like TV, $75%$ like books, and $50%$ are entertained by both,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.75-0.50=0.5=50%$$



          Similarly, for your problem,
          $$mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=mathrm{Pr(TV)}+mathrm{Pr(Books)}-mathrm{Pr(TVcap Books)}\
          implies mathrm{Pr(TVcup Books)}=0.25+0.39-0.36=0.28=28%$$







          share|cite|improve this answer














          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer








          edited Apr 5 '14 at 4:16

























          answered Apr 5 '14 at 2:30







          user122283



















          • $begingroup$
            I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 3:32










          • $begingroup$
            @Jesse See my edited answer.
            $endgroup$
            – user122283
            Apr 5 '14 at 4:16










          • $begingroup$
            When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:12




















          • $begingroup$
            I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 3:32










          • $begingroup$
            @Jesse See my edited answer.
            $endgroup$
            – user122283
            Apr 5 '14 at 4:16










          • $begingroup$
            When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:12


















          $begingroup$
          I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 3:32




          $begingroup$
          I feel the question would only make sense, if it was stated "rigorously" as you put, otherwise it seems ambiguous. Anyways what answer do you get? And in your given example, do you mind walking through how to solve it?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 3:32












          $begingroup$
          @Jesse See my edited answer.
          $endgroup$
          – user122283
          Apr 5 '14 at 4:16




          $begingroup$
          @Jesse See my edited answer.
          $endgroup$
          – user122283
          Apr 5 '14 at 4:16












          $begingroup$
          When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:12






          $begingroup$
          When $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ does that imply that $P(A)$ is the probability for $A$ to strictly occur, otherwise the probability of obtaining $A$, be it solely $A$ or $A$ with $B$ is greater than the given $P(A)$? Which sounds odd... help me out.
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:12













          0












          $begingroup$

          You use the inclusion-exclusion principle. $Pr(A cup B) = Pr(A) + Pr(B) - Pr(A cap B)$. Your exam questions are worded correctly and don't have the same problem as the original question you posed did. It always must be true that $Pr(A cap B) le min(Pr(A), Pr(B))$, since $A cap B subseteq A$ and $A cap B subseteq B$.



          For question
          14) Let $F$ denote the event of a faulty switch, and $D$ denote the event of a defective cord. You are told, $P(F cup D) = 0.05, P(F) = 0.016$, and $P(Fcap D) = 0.002$. From the inclusion-exclusion principle you know



          $P(F cup D) = P(F) + P(D) - P(F cap D) Rightarrow P(D) = P(F cup D) - P(F) + P(F cap D) =$ $0.05 - 0.016 + 0.002 = 0.036$.



          Question 15) Follow's a similar procedure (apply inclusion-exclusion principle) to get $.42 + .45 - 0.13 = 0.74$.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 18:26










          • $begingroup$
            So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 19:35










          • $begingroup$
            The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:10










          • $begingroup$
            This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:21










          • $begingroup$
            ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:27
















          0












          $begingroup$

          You use the inclusion-exclusion principle. $Pr(A cup B) = Pr(A) + Pr(B) - Pr(A cap B)$. Your exam questions are worded correctly and don't have the same problem as the original question you posed did. It always must be true that $Pr(A cap B) le min(Pr(A), Pr(B))$, since $A cap B subseteq A$ and $A cap B subseteq B$.



          For question
          14) Let $F$ denote the event of a faulty switch, and $D$ denote the event of a defective cord. You are told, $P(F cup D) = 0.05, P(F) = 0.016$, and $P(Fcap D) = 0.002$. From the inclusion-exclusion principle you know



          $P(F cup D) = P(F) + P(D) - P(F cap D) Rightarrow P(D) = P(F cup D) - P(F) + P(F cap D) =$ $0.05 - 0.016 + 0.002 = 0.036$.



          Question 15) Follow's a similar procedure (apply inclusion-exclusion principle) to get $.42 + .45 - 0.13 = 0.74$.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$













          • $begingroup$
            How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 18:26










          • $begingroup$
            So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 19:35










          • $begingroup$
            The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:10










          • $begingroup$
            This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:21










          • $begingroup$
            ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:27














          0












          0








          0





          $begingroup$

          You use the inclusion-exclusion principle. $Pr(A cup B) = Pr(A) + Pr(B) - Pr(A cap B)$. Your exam questions are worded correctly and don't have the same problem as the original question you posed did. It always must be true that $Pr(A cap B) le min(Pr(A), Pr(B))$, since $A cap B subseteq A$ and $A cap B subseteq B$.



          For question
          14) Let $F$ denote the event of a faulty switch, and $D$ denote the event of a defective cord. You are told, $P(F cup D) = 0.05, P(F) = 0.016$, and $P(Fcap D) = 0.002$. From the inclusion-exclusion principle you know



          $P(F cup D) = P(F) + P(D) - P(F cap D) Rightarrow P(D) = P(F cup D) - P(F) + P(F cap D) =$ $0.05 - 0.016 + 0.002 = 0.036$.



          Question 15) Follow's a similar procedure (apply inclusion-exclusion principle) to get $.42 + .45 - 0.13 = 0.74$.






          share|cite|improve this answer











          $endgroup$



          You use the inclusion-exclusion principle. $Pr(A cup B) = Pr(A) + Pr(B) - Pr(A cap B)$. Your exam questions are worded correctly and don't have the same problem as the original question you posed did. It always must be true that $Pr(A cap B) le min(Pr(A), Pr(B))$, since $A cap B subseteq A$ and $A cap B subseteq B$.



          For question
          14) Let $F$ denote the event of a faulty switch, and $D$ denote the event of a defective cord. You are told, $P(F cup D) = 0.05, P(F) = 0.016$, and $P(Fcap D) = 0.002$. From the inclusion-exclusion principle you know



          $P(F cup D) = P(F) + P(D) - P(F cap D) Rightarrow P(D) = P(F cup D) - P(F) + P(F cap D) =$ $0.05 - 0.016 + 0.002 = 0.036$.



          Question 15) Follow's a similar procedure (apply inclusion-exclusion principle) to get $.42 + .45 - 0.13 = 0.74$.







          share|cite|improve this answer














          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer








          edited Apr 5 '14 at 20:57

























          answered Apr 5 '14 at 3:58









          GridGrid

          411512




          411512












          • $begingroup$
            How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 18:26










          • $begingroup$
            So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 19:35










          • $begingroup$
            The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:10










          • $begingroup$
            This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:21










          • $begingroup$
            ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:27


















          • $begingroup$
            How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 18:26










          • $begingroup$
            So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 19:35










          • $begingroup$
            The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:10










          • $begingroup$
            This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
            $endgroup$
            – Jesse
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:21










          • $begingroup$
            ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
            $endgroup$
            – Grid
            Apr 5 '14 at 20:27
















          $begingroup$
          How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 18:26




          $begingroup$
          How would you show this on a Venn Diagram?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 18:26












          $begingroup$
          So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 19:35




          $begingroup$
          So is the question asking for the probability of the symmetric difference or the union ?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 19:35












          $begingroup$
          The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
          $endgroup$
          – Grid
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:10




          $begingroup$
          The question is asking about the union, you want to include the middle portion. While symmetric difference in this case would be $Pr(A) + Pr(B) - 2*Pr(A cap B)$. Looking back my previous Venn Diagram explanation it seems it's slightly incorrect, ignore it. Sanath's description of the question is better, the original wording isn't the best. In any case, the question is just testing the 'inclusion-exclusion principle'.
          $endgroup$
          – Grid
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:10












          $begingroup$
          This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:21




          $begingroup$
          This was an exam question, so if the wording is not good I would like to challenge it, but if the question is correct by the context/logic, I need to know how the logic leads to an unambiguous answer. Namely, what does $P(A cap B) > P(A)$ imply?
          $endgroup$
          – Jesse
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:21












          $begingroup$
          ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
          $endgroup$
          – Grid
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:27




          $begingroup$
          ^ I lied haha, sorry I don't know what I was thinking you're right it's obviously not possible. See updated answer. Do challenge your instructor.
          $endgroup$
          – Grid
          Apr 5 '14 at 20:27


















          draft saved

          draft discarded




















































          Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


          • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

          But avoid



          • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

          • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


          Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


          To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function () {
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f740282%2ffinite-math-probability-venn-diagram%23new-answer', 'question_page');
          }
          );

          Post as a guest















          Required, but never shown





















































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown

































          Required, but never shown














          Required, but never shown












          Required, but never shown







          Required, but never shown







          Popular posts from this blog

          MongoDB - Not Authorized To Execute Command

          How to fix TextFormField cause rebuild widget in Flutter

          in spring boot 2.1 many test slices are not allowed anymore due to multiple @BootstrapWith