Given medians of a right triangle, find the length of one side of the triangle












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I wonder whether there is an easy way to solve the problem. The method I used is to find the length of AC and CB, using right triangle ACF and ECB, respectively. Then find the length of AB using right triangle ABC. It's a straightforward problem, but my answer is different from the answer sheet.



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Problem: Medians are drawn from point A and B in a right triangle to divide BC and AC in half, respectively. The lengths of the medians are 6 and 2√ 11, respectively. What is the length of AB?



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    Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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I wonder whether there is an easy way to solve the problem. The method I used is to find the length of AC and CB, using right triangle ACF and ECB, respectively. Then find the length of AB using right triangle ABC. It's a straightforward problem, but my answer is different from the answer sheet.



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Problem: Medians are drawn from point A and B in a right triangle to divide BC and AC in half, respectively. The lengths of the medians are 6 and 2√ 11, respectively. What is the length of AB?



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    Hint: medians intersect themselves in ratio 2:1
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    what is yours and what is answer sheet?
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    Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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I wonder whether there is an easy way to solve the problem. The method I used is to find the length of AC and CB, using right triangle ACF and ECB, respectively. Then find the length of AB using right triangle ABC. It's a straightforward problem, but my answer is different from the answer sheet.



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Problem: Medians are drawn from point A and B in a right triangle to divide BC and AC in half, respectively. The lengths of the medians are 6 and 2√ 11, respectively. What is the length of AB?



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I wonder whether there is an easy way to solve the problem. The method I used is to find the length of AC and CB, using right triangle ACF and ECB, respectively. Then find the length of AB using right triangle ABC. It's a straightforward problem, but my answer is different from the answer sheet.



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Problem: Medians are drawn from point A and B in a right triangle to divide BC and AC in half, respectively. The lengths of the medians are 6 and 2√ 11, respectively. What is the length of AB?



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    Hint: medians intersect themselves in ratio 2:1
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    what is yours and what is answer sheet?
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    Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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  • $begingroup$
    Hint: medians intersect themselves in ratio 2:1
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    – Jorge Fernández
    Apr 6 '16 at 2:50












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    what is yours and what is answer sheet?
    $endgroup$
    – chenbai
    Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










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    Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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Hint: medians intersect themselves in ratio 2:1
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– Jorge Fernández
Apr 6 '16 at 2:50






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Hint: medians intersect themselves in ratio 2:1
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– Jorge Fernández
Apr 6 '16 at 2:50














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what is yours and what is answer sheet?
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– chenbai
Apr 6 '16 at 2:59




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what is yours and what is answer sheet?
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– chenbai
Apr 6 '16 at 2:59












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Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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Well you can turn this into an algebra question. Let x =AC and y = BC. $(x/2)^2 + y^2 =4*11$ while $x^2 + (y/2)^2 = 36$. Solve for x and y. AB= $sqrt {x^2+y^2} $.
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$AC^2+(BC/2)^2=AF^2$



$(AC/2)^2+BC^2=BE^2$



you find $AC$ and $BC$.



Then
$AB^2=AC^2+BC^2$






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    how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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    Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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    Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










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    oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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Let $x = CF$ and $y = CE$. Then:
begin{align*}
(2x)^2 + y^2 = (2sqrt{11})^2 &iff 4x^2 + y^2 = 44 \
x^2 + (2y)^2 = 6^2 &iff x^2 + 4y^2 = 36
end{align*}
Adding the two equations together yields:
$$
5x^2 + 5y^2 = 80 iff x^2 + y^2 = 16
$$
The desired hypotenuse $AB$ is given by:
$$
sqrt{(2x)^2 + (2y)^2} = sqrt{4x^2 + 4y^2} = 2sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = 2sqrt{16} = 8
$$






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    Let $BC = 2a quad AC = 2b quad AB = 2c$



    Then $EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 quad AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 quad c^2 = 4a^2 + 4b^2$



    $EB^2 + AF^2 = 5a^2 + 5b^2 = dfrac 54 c^2$



    So $c^2 = dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)$



    $c = sqrt{dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)}$



    For your example,
    begin{align}
    c &= sqrt{dfrac 45((2sqrt{11})^2 + 6^2)} \
    &= sqrt{dfrac 5(44 + 36)} \
    &= sqrt{dfrac 45(80)} \
    &= 8
    end{align}



    OR



    From
    $left{ begin{array}{c}
    EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 \
    AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2
    end{array} right}$
    we find
    $left{ begin{array}{c}
    BC^2 = 4a^2 = 4dfrac{4,AF^2 - EB^2}{15} \
    AC^2 = 4b^2 = 4dfrac{4,EB^2 - AF^2}{15} \
    end{array} right}$



    Since $AF^2 = 36$ and $EB^2 = 44$, we get
    $left{ begin{array}{c}
    BC^2 = 4dfrac{144 - 44}{15} = dfrac{80}{3} \
    AC^2 = 4dfrac{176 - 36}{15} = dfrac{112}{3} \
    end{array} right}$



    Finally $AB=sqrt{AC^2 + BC^2} =sqrt{64} = 8$






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      From



      $AC^2+(BC/2)^2=AF^2$



      $(AC/2)^2+BC^2=BE^2$



      you find $AC$ and $BC$.



      Then
      $AB^2=AC^2+BC^2$






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        how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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        Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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        oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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      From



      $AC^2+(BC/2)^2=AF^2$



      $(AC/2)^2+BC^2=BE^2$



      you find $AC$ and $BC$.



      Then
      $AB^2=AC^2+BC^2$






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        how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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        Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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        Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










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        oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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        Apr 6 '16 at 3:03














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      From



      $AC^2+(BC/2)^2=AF^2$



      $(AC/2)^2+BC^2=BE^2$



      you find $AC$ and $BC$.



      Then
      $AB^2=AC^2+BC^2$






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      From



      $AC^2+(BC/2)^2=AF^2$



      $(AC/2)^2+BC^2=BE^2$



      you find $AC$ and $BC$.



      Then
      $AB^2=AC^2+BC^2$







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        how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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        Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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        Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










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        oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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        how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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        Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










      • $begingroup$
        Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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        Apr 6 '16 at 2:59










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        oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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      how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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      how do you find $AC$? you only know one of the sides out of the three in the first equation.
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      Apr 6 '16 at 2:59












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      Thanks. That is how I did, but the answer is different from the answer sheet. May be the answer key is wrong. Thanks again.
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      – user321645
      Apr 6 '16 at 2:59




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      oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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      oh ok, you solve the system of equations?
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      Let $x = CF$ and $y = CE$. Then:
      begin{align*}
      (2x)^2 + y^2 = (2sqrt{11})^2 &iff 4x^2 + y^2 = 44 \
      x^2 + (2y)^2 = 6^2 &iff x^2 + 4y^2 = 36
      end{align*}
      Adding the two equations together yields:
      $$
      5x^2 + 5y^2 = 80 iff x^2 + y^2 = 16
      $$
      The desired hypotenuse $AB$ is given by:
      $$
      sqrt{(2x)^2 + (2y)^2} = sqrt{4x^2 + 4y^2} = 2sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = 2sqrt{16} = 8
      $$






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        Let $x = CF$ and $y = CE$. Then:
        begin{align*}
        (2x)^2 + y^2 = (2sqrt{11})^2 &iff 4x^2 + y^2 = 44 \
        x^2 + (2y)^2 = 6^2 &iff x^2 + 4y^2 = 36
        end{align*}
        Adding the two equations together yields:
        $$
        5x^2 + 5y^2 = 80 iff x^2 + y^2 = 16
        $$
        The desired hypotenuse $AB$ is given by:
        $$
        sqrt{(2x)^2 + (2y)^2} = sqrt{4x^2 + 4y^2} = 2sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = 2sqrt{16} = 8
        $$






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          Let $x = CF$ and $y = CE$. Then:
          begin{align*}
          (2x)^2 + y^2 = (2sqrt{11})^2 &iff 4x^2 + y^2 = 44 \
          x^2 + (2y)^2 = 6^2 &iff x^2 + 4y^2 = 36
          end{align*}
          Adding the two equations together yields:
          $$
          5x^2 + 5y^2 = 80 iff x^2 + y^2 = 16
          $$
          The desired hypotenuse $AB$ is given by:
          $$
          sqrt{(2x)^2 + (2y)^2} = sqrt{4x^2 + 4y^2} = 2sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = 2sqrt{16} = 8
          $$






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          Let $x = CF$ and $y = CE$. Then:
          begin{align*}
          (2x)^2 + y^2 = (2sqrt{11})^2 &iff 4x^2 + y^2 = 44 \
          x^2 + (2y)^2 = 6^2 &iff x^2 + 4y^2 = 36
          end{align*}
          Adding the two equations together yields:
          $$
          5x^2 + 5y^2 = 80 iff x^2 + y^2 = 16
          $$
          The desired hypotenuse $AB$ is given by:
          $$
          sqrt{(2x)^2 + (2y)^2} = sqrt{4x^2 + 4y^2} = 2sqrt{x^2 + y^2} = 2sqrt{16} = 8
          $$







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              Let $BC = 2a quad AC = 2b quad AB = 2c$



              Then $EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 quad AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 quad c^2 = 4a^2 + 4b^2$



              $EB^2 + AF^2 = 5a^2 + 5b^2 = dfrac 54 c^2$



              So $c^2 = dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)$



              $c = sqrt{dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)}$



              For your example,
              begin{align}
              c &= sqrt{dfrac 45((2sqrt{11})^2 + 6^2)} \
              &= sqrt{dfrac 5(44 + 36)} \
              &= sqrt{dfrac 45(80)} \
              &= 8
              end{align}



              OR



              From
              $left{ begin{array}{c}
              EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 \
              AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2
              end{array} right}$
              we find
              $left{ begin{array}{c}
              BC^2 = 4a^2 = 4dfrac{4,AF^2 - EB^2}{15} \
              AC^2 = 4b^2 = 4dfrac{4,EB^2 - AF^2}{15} \
              end{array} right}$



              Since $AF^2 = 36$ and $EB^2 = 44$, we get
              $left{ begin{array}{c}
              BC^2 = 4dfrac{144 - 44}{15} = dfrac{80}{3} \
              AC^2 = 4dfrac{176 - 36}{15} = dfrac{112}{3} \
              end{array} right}$



              Finally $AB=sqrt{AC^2 + BC^2} =sqrt{64} = 8$






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                Let $BC = 2a quad AC = 2b quad AB = 2c$



                Then $EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 quad AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 quad c^2 = 4a^2 + 4b^2$



                $EB^2 + AF^2 = 5a^2 + 5b^2 = dfrac 54 c^2$



                So $c^2 = dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)$



                $c = sqrt{dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)}$



                For your example,
                begin{align}
                c &= sqrt{dfrac 45((2sqrt{11})^2 + 6^2)} \
                &= sqrt{dfrac 5(44 + 36)} \
                &= sqrt{dfrac 45(80)} \
                &= 8
                end{align}



                OR



                From
                $left{ begin{array}{c}
                EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 \
                AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2
                end{array} right}$
                we find
                $left{ begin{array}{c}
                BC^2 = 4a^2 = 4dfrac{4,AF^2 - EB^2}{15} \
                AC^2 = 4b^2 = 4dfrac{4,EB^2 - AF^2}{15} \
                end{array} right}$



                Since $AF^2 = 36$ and $EB^2 = 44$, we get
                $left{ begin{array}{c}
                BC^2 = 4dfrac{144 - 44}{15} = dfrac{80}{3} \
                AC^2 = 4dfrac{176 - 36}{15} = dfrac{112}{3} \
                end{array} right}$



                Finally $AB=sqrt{AC^2 + BC^2} =sqrt{64} = 8$






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                  Let $BC = 2a quad AC = 2b quad AB = 2c$



                  Then $EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 quad AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 quad c^2 = 4a^2 + 4b^2$



                  $EB^2 + AF^2 = 5a^2 + 5b^2 = dfrac 54 c^2$



                  So $c^2 = dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)$



                  $c = sqrt{dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)}$



                  For your example,
                  begin{align}
                  c &= sqrt{dfrac 45((2sqrt{11})^2 + 6^2)} \
                  &= sqrt{dfrac 5(44 + 36)} \
                  &= sqrt{dfrac 45(80)} \
                  &= 8
                  end{align}



                  OR



                  From
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 \
                  AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2
                  end{array} right}$
                  we find
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  BC^2 = 4a^2 = 4dfrac{4,AF^2 - EB^2}{15} \
                  AC^2 = 4b^2 = 4dfrac{4,EB^2 - AF^2}{15} \
                  end{array} right}$



                  Since $AF^2 = 36$ and $EB^2 = 44$, we get
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  BC^2 = 4dfrac{144 - 44}{15} = dfrac{80}{3} \
                  AC^2 = 4dfrac{176 - 36}{15} = dfrac{112}{3} \
                  end{array} right}$



                  Finally $AB=sqrt{AC^2 + BC^2} =sqrt{64} = 8$






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                  Let $BC = 2a quad AC = 2b quad AB = 2c$



                  Then $EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 quad AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2 quad c^2 = 4a^2 + 4b^2$



                  $EB^2 + AF^2 = 5a^2 + 5b^2 = dfrac 54 c^2$



                  So $c^2 = dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)$



                  $c = sqrt{dfrac 45(EB^2 + AF^2)}$



                  For your example,
                  begin{align}
                  c &= sqrt{dfrac 45((2sqrt{11})^2 + 6^2)} \
                  &= sqrt{dfrac 5(44 + 36)} \
                  &= sqrt{dfrac 45(80)} \
                  &= 8
                  end{align}



                  OR



                  From
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  EB^2 = b^2 + 4a^2 \
                  AF^2 = a^2 + 4b^2
                  end{array} right}$
                  we find
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  BC^2 = 4a^2 = 4dfrac{4,AF^2 - EB^2}{15} \
                  AC^2 = 4b^2 = 4dfrac{4,EB^2 - AF^2}{15} \
                  end{array} right}$



                  Since $AF^2 = 36$ and $EB^2 = 44$, we get
                  $left{ begin{array}{c}
                  BC^2 = 4dfrac{144 - 44}{15} = dfrac{80}{3} \
                  AC^2 = 4dfrac{176 - 36}{15} = dfrac{112}{3} \
                  end{array} right}$



                  Finally $AB=sqrt{AC^2 + BC^2} =sqrt{64} = 8$







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