Let $Zsim N(0,1)$. Give a clean and rigorous proof that $Z^3$ cannot be normally distributed
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Just as the title suggests. I simply have no idea how to prove that a random variable is not normally distributed. I'd really appreciate some hint.
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Just as the title suggests. I simply have no idea how to prove that a random variable is not normally distributed. I'd really appreciate some hint.
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– dantopa
Jan 17 at 21:11
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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– kimchi lover
Jan 17 at 21:18
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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Just as the title suggests. I simply have no idea how to prove that a random variable is not normally distributed. I'd really appreciate some hint.
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Just as the title suggests. I simply have no idea how to prove that a random variable is not normally distributed. I'd really appreciate some hint.
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– dantopa
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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– kimchi lover
Jan 17 at 21:18
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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Jan 17 at 22:06
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– dantopa
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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– kimchi lover
Jan 17 at 21:18
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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– lulu
Jan 17 at 22:06
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– dantopa
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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– kimchi lover
Jan 17 at 21:18
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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– kimchi lover
Jan 17 at 21:18
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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– lulu
Jan 17 at 22:06
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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If $Z^3$ were normally distributed, then it would have variance $mathbf{E}(Z^6) = 15$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution#Moments) but this contradicts at once the easy fact $mathbf{P}(Z^3 in (-1,1)) = mathbf{P}(Z in (-1,1)).$
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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– Mingyang Guo
Jan 17 at 21:31
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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– Will M.
Jan 17 at 21:44
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If $Z^3$ were normally distributed, then it would have variance $mathbf{E}(Z^6) = 15$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution#Moments) but this contradicts at once the easy fact $mathbf{P}(Z^3 in (-1,1)) = mathbf{P}(Z in (-1,1)).$
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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– Mingyang Guo
Jan 17 at 21:31
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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– Will M.
Jan 17 at 21:44
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If $Z^3$ were normally distributed, then it would have variance $mathbf{E}(Z^6) = 15$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution#Moments) but this contradicts at once the easy fact $mathbf{P}(Z^3 in (-1,1)) = mathbf{P}(Z in (-1,1)).$
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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– Mingyang Guo
Jan 17 at 21:31
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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– Will M.
Jan 17 at 21:44
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If $Z^3$ were normally distributed, then it would have variance $mathbf{E}(Z^6) = 15$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution#Moments) but this contradicts at once the easy fact $mathbf{P}(Z^3 in (-1,1)) = mathbf{P}(Z in (-1,1)).$
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If $Z^3$ were normally distributed, then it would have variance $mathbf{E}(Z^6) = 15$ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_distribution#Moments) but this contradicts at once the easy fact $mathbf{P}(Z^3 in (-1,1)) = mathbf{P}(Z in (-1,1)).$
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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– Will M.
Jan 17 at 21:44
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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– Mingyang Guo
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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– Will M.
Jan 17 at 21:44
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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– Mingyang Guo
Jan 17 at 21:31
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Do you mean the variance or the expectation?
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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The expectation of $Z^3$ is zero because it is symmetric. Don't make do all the leg work. You should try to do some as well. =)
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You can check directly that $Eexp(tZ^3)$ is not finite if $tne 0$.
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Jan 17 at 21:18
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As a hint: Note that $P(Z^3≤1)=P(Z≤1)$ which tells that, were the distribution normal, we'd have $sigma =1 $. But $P(Z^3≤2)neq P(Z≤2)$.
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– lulu
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