Verification of metric axiom 3












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If I have a $3$ element set, say $X={a,b,c}$ where $d$ is a metric on $X$ with $d(a,b)=5$ and $d(b,c)=7$, then do we have $d(a,c)in{[0,12]}$ by the triangle inequality? since the distance is greater than or equal to $0$, but less than or equal to the sum of the other $2$ sides.



$$d(a,c)leq d(a,b)+d(b,c),$$ $$d(a,c)leq 5+7,$$ $$d(a,c)leq 12.$$










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    You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
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    – Hagen von Eitzen
    Jan 17 at 20:38










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    Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
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    Jan 17 at 20:41






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    Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
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    – Chickenmancer
    Jan 17 at 20:42










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    Of course, thanks to you both. :)
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    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:50
















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$begingroup$


If I have a $3$ element set, say $X={a,b,c}$ where $d$ is a metric on $X$ with $d(a,b)=5$ and $d(b,c)=7$, then do we have $d(a,c)in{[0,12]}$ by the triangle inequality? since the distance is greater than or equal to $0$, but less than or equal to the sum of the other $2$ sides.



$$d(a,c)leq d(a,b)+d(b,c),$$ $$d(a,c)leq 5+7,$$ $$d(a,c)leq 12.$$










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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
    $endgroup$
    – Hagen von Eitzen
    Jan 17 at 20:38










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
    $endgroup$
    – Chickenmancer
    Jan 17 at 20:42










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, thanks to you both. :)
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:50














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$begingroup$


If I have a $3$ element set, say $X={a,b,c}$ where $d$ is a metric on $X$ with $d(a,b)=5$ and $d(b,c)=7$, then do we have $d(a,c)in{[0,12]}$ by the triangle inequality? since the distance is greater than or equal to $0$, but less than or equal to the sum of the other $2$ sides.



$$d(a,c)leq d(a,b)+d(b,c),$$ $$d(a,c)leq 5+7,$$ $$d(a,c)leq 12.$$










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If I have a $3$ element set, say $X={a,b,c}$ where $d$ is a metric on $X$ with $d(a,b)=5$ and $d(b,c)=7$, then do we have $d(a,c)in{[0,12]}$ by the triangle inequality? since the distance is greater than or equal to $0$, but less than or equal to the sum of the other $2$ sides.



$$d(a,c)leq d(a,b)+d(b,c),$$ $$d(a,c)leq 5+7,$$ $$d(a,c)leq 12.$$







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    $begingroup$
    You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
    $endgroup$
    – Hagen von Eitzen
    Jan 17 at 20:38










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
    $endgroup$
    – Chickenmancer
    Jan 17 at 20:42










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, thanks to you both. :)
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:50














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
    $endgroup$
    – Hagen von Eitzen
    Jan 17 at 20:38










  • $begingroup$
    Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:41






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
    $endgroup$
    – Chickenmancer
    Jan 17 at 20:42










  • $begingroup$
    Of course, thanks to you both. :)
    $endgroup$
    – user606466
    Jan 17 at 20:50








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$begingroup$
You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 17 at 20:38




$begingroup$
You also need $d(b,c)le d(b,a)+d(a,c)$, so $d(a,c)ge 2$
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 17 at 20:38












$begingroup$
Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
$endgroup$
– user606466
Jan 17 at 20:41




$begingroup$
Can you please explain to me why we also need this?
$endgroup$
– user606466
Jan 17 at 20:41




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$begingroup$
Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
$endgroup$
– Chickenmancer
Jan 17 at 20:42




$begingroup$
Because the triangle inequality must be true for any three points in your space. That is, what @HagenvonEitzen has written must also be true, since the distance from $b$ to $c$ must be less than or equal to the distance from $b$ to $a$ plus the distance from $a$ to $c$.
$endgroup$
– Chickenmancer
Jan 17 at 20:42












$begingroup$
Of course, thanks to you both. :)
$endgroup$
– user606466
Jan 17 at 20:50




$begingroup$
Of course, thanks to you both. :)
$endgroup$
– user606466
Jan 17 at 20:50










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