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A random sample of $6$ observations $(X_1, X_2, cdots, X_6)$ is generated from a Geometric($theta$), where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown, but only $T = sum_{i=1}^{6} X_i$ is observed by the statistician.



(a) Describe the statistical model for the observed data ($T$)



(b)-(i) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta}$ ? Prove your answer



(b)-(ii) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = theta(1-theta)$ ? Prove your answer





My attempt:



(a) Since geometric is iid with Negative Binomial



Each $X_i$ ~ $mathrm{Geometric}(theta)$ therefore $T = sum_{i=1}^{6}$ ~ $mathrm{NegativeBinomial}(r, theta)$ where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown.



The probability function for T is given by $$f_{theta}(t) = {t +r-1choose t}(1-theta)^t theta^r$$ for $t = 0,1, cdots, 6$



parameter is $theta$ and parameter space is $[0,1]$



(b)-(i) and (b)-(ii) I'm not sure how to do. Would I just show they are one to one by graphing each of them? Not sure










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    A random sample of $6$ observations $(X_1, X_2, cdots, X_6)$ is generated from a Geometric($theta$), where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown, but only $T = sum_{i=1}^{6} X_i$ is observed by the statistician.



    (a) Describe the statistical model for the observed data ($T$)



    (b)-(i) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta}$ ? Prove your answer



    (b)-(ii) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = theta(1-theta)$ ? Prove your answer





    My attempt:



    (a) Since geometric is iid with Negative Binomial



    Each $X_i$ ~ $mathrm{Geometric}(theta)$ therefore $T = sum_{i=1}^{6}$ ~ $mathrm{NegativeBinomial}(r, theta)$ where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown.



    The probability function for T is given by $$f_{theta}(t) = {t +r-1choose t}(1-theta)^t theta^r$$ for $t = 0,1, cdots, 6$



    parameter is $theta$ and parameter space is $[0,1]$



    (b)-(i) and (b)-(ii) I'm not sure how to do. Would I just show they are one to one by graphing each of them? Not sure










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      A random sample of $6$ observations $(X_1, X_2, cdots, X_6)$ is generated from a Geometric($theta$), where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown, but only $T = sum_{i=1}^{6} X_i$ is observed by the statistician.



      (a) Describe the statistical model for the observed data ($T$)



      (b)-(i) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta}$ ? Prove your answer



      (b)-(ii) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = theta(1-theta)$ ? Prove your answer





      My attempt:



      (a) Since geometric is iid with Negative Binomial



      Each $X_i$ ~ $mathrm{Geometric}(theta)$ therefore $T = sum_{i=1}^{6}$ ~ $mathrm{NegativeBinomial}(r, theta)$ where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown.



      The probability function for T is given by $$f_{theta}(t) = {t +r-1choose t}(1-theta)^t theta^r$$ for $t = 0,1, cdots, 6$



      parameter is $theta$ and parameter space is $[0,1]$



      (b)-(i) and (b)-(ii) I'm not sure how to do. Would I just show they are one to one by graphing each of them? Not sure










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      A random sample of $6$ observations $(X_1, X_2, cdots, X_6)$ is generated from a Geometric($theta$), where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown, but only $T = sum_{i=1}^{6} X_i$ is observed by the statistician.



      (a) Describe the statistical model for the observed data ($T$)



      (b)-(i) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta}$ ? Prove your answer



      (b)-(ii) Is it possible to parameterize the model by $Psi = theta(1-theta)$ ? Prove your answer





      My attempt:



      (a) Since geometric is iid with Negative Binomial



      Each $X_i$ ~ $mathrm{Geometric}(theta)$ therefore $T = sum_{i=1}^{6}$ ~ $mathrm{NegativeBinomial}(r, theta)$ where $theta in (0, 1)$ unknown.



      The probability function for T is given by $$f_{theta}(t) = {t +r-1choose t}(1-theta)^t theta^r$$ for $t = 0,1, cdots, 6$



      parameter is $theta$ and parameter space is $[0,1]$



      (b)-(i) and (b)-(ii) I'm not sure how to do. Would I just show they are one to one by graphing each of them? Not sure







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          Your answer for (a) is a probability mass function so personally I would not use $f$ to describe it as that is often used for a density. I would write $6$ rather than $r$. And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at $0$ or $6$, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at $0$ or $1$



          For (b)(i) you can say that $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta} iff theta = frac{1}{Psi+1}$ at least if $theta not = 0$ which it has to be for the question to be sensible, so you can just use this as a substitution to parameterize the model by $Psi$



          For (b)(ii) you can say that $Psi = theta({1-theta})$ is satisfied by $theta = frac{1 pm sqrt{1+4Psi}}{2}$, and the $pm$ is a warning sign; for example $Psi=0.09$ could be produced by $theta=0.1$ or $theta=0.9$ which would give you different probabilities, so so you cannot parameterize the model by this $Psi$






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            "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
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            A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
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          $begingroup$

          Your answer for (a) is a probability mass function so personally I would not use $f$ to describe it as that is often used for a density. I would write $6$ rather than $r$. And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at $0$ or $6$, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at $0$ or $1$



          For (b)(i) you can say that $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta} iff theta = frac{1}{Psi+1}$ at least if $theta not = 0$ which it has to be for the question to be sensible, so you can just use this as a substitution to parameterize the model by $Psi$



          For (b)(ii) you can say that $Psi = theta({1-theta})$ is satisfied by $theta = frac{1 pm sqrt{1+4Psi}}{2}$, and the $pm$ is a warning sign; for example $Psi=0.09$ could be produced by $theta=0.1$ or $theta=0.9$ which would give you different probabilities, so so you cannot parameterize the model by this $Psi$






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          • $begingroup$
            "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
            $endgroup$
            – Bas bas
            Jan 25 at 13:37












          • $begingroup$
            A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
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            Jan 25 at 14:30
















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          $begingroup$

          Your answer for (a) is a probability mass function so personally I would not use $f$ to describe it as that is often used for a density. I would write $6$ rather than $r$. And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at $0$ or $6$, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at $0$ or $1$



          For (b)(i) you can say that $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta} iff theta = frac{1}{Psi+1}$ at least if $theta not = 0$ which it has to be for the question to be sensible, so you can just use this as a substitution to parameterize the model by $Psi$



          For (b)(ii) you can say that $Psi = theta({1-theta})$ is satisfied by $theta = frac{1 pm sqrt{1+4Psi}}{2}$, and the $pm$ is a warning sign; for example $Psi=0.09$ could be produced by $theta=0.1$ or $theta=0.9$ which would give you different probabilities, so so you cannot parameterize the model by this $Psi$






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          • $begingroup$
            "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
            $endgroup$
            – Bas bas
            Jan 25 at 13:37












          • $begingroup$
            A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
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            – Henry
            Jan 25 at 14:30














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          $begingroup$

          Your answer for (a) is a probability mass function so personally I would not use $f$ to describe it as that is often used for a density. I would write $6$ rather than $r$. And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at $0$ or $6$, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at $0$ or $1$



          For (b)(i) you can say that $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta} iff theta = frac{1}{Psi+1}$ at least if $theta not = 0$ which it has to be for the question to be sensible, so you can just use this as a substitution to parameterize the model by $Psi$



          For (b)(ii) you can say that $Psi = theta({1-theta})$ is satisfied by $theta = frac{1 pm sqrt{1+4Psi}}{2}$, and the $pm$ is a warning sign; for example $Psi=0.09$ could be produced by $theta=0.1$ or $theta=0.9$ which would give you different probabilities, so so you cannot parameterize the model by this $Psi$






          share|cite|improve this answer









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          Your answer for (a) is a probability mass function so personally I would not use $f$ to describe it as that is often used for a density. I would write $6$ rather than $r$. And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at $0$ or $6$, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at $0$ or $1$



          For (b)(i) you can say that $Psi = frac{1-theta}{theta} iff theta = frac{1}{Psi+1}$ at least if $theta not = 0$ which it has to be for the question to be sensible, so you can just use this as a substitution to parameterize the model by $Psi$



          For (b)(ii) you can say that $Psi = theta({1-theta})$ is satisfied by $theta = frac{1 pm sqrt{1+4Psi}}{2}$, and the $pm$ is a warning sign; for example $Psi=0.09$ could be produced by $theta=0.1$ or $theta=0.9$ which would give you different probabilities, so so you cannot parameterize the model by this $Psi$







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          • $begingroup$
            "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
            $endgroup$
            – Bas bas
            Jan 25 at 13:37












          • $begingroup$
            A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Jan 25 at 14:30


















          • $begingroup$
            "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
            $endgroup$
            – Bas bas
            Jan 25 at 13:37












          • $begingroup$
            A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
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            – Henry
            Jan 25 at 14:30
















          $begingroup$
          "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
          $endgroup$
          – Bas bas
          Jan 25 at 13:37






          $begingroup$
          "And it depends on whether your negative binomial starts at 0 or 6, i.e. whether your geometric distributions start at 0 or 1". What do you mean? Confuse at this part get the rest though
          $endgroup$
          – Bas bas
          Jan 25 at 13:37














          $begingroup$
          A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
          $endgroup$
          – Henry
          Jan 25 at 14:30




          $begingroup$
          A negative binomial distribution may count the number of failures before the $n$th success (minimum possible value is $0$) or the number of attempts when then $n$th success occurs (minimum possible value is $n$). When $n=1$ you have a geometric distribution with a minimum possible value of $0$ or $1$ depending on which definition you are using; your question does not say.
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          – Henry
          Jan 25 at 14:30


















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