Slight generalization of differentiation so that Re{z} is differentiable in the complex plane?












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If I make a small change $delta z$ to a complex number $z$, then $mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{z}rightarrow mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z+delta z} = mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z}+mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {delta z}$. Differentiation is closely related to finding linear approximations to functions about points. There is no constant $alpha$ so that $alpha delta z=mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{delta z}$, so conventionally we would say that no derivative could exist.



However, if I map $z$ to the real-valued vector $hat z=[mathrm{Re}{z},mathrm{Im}{z}]^T$, then the real-part function becomes the projecting matrix $R=bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. Clearly, the derivative with respect to $hat z$ of $Rhat z$ is $bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. This implies that there is something nearby to complex numbers where the derivative of $mathrm{Re}{ z}$ is defined. What am I dealing with here?










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  • The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
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If I make a small change $delta z$ to a complex number $z$, then $mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{z}rightarrow mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z+delta z} = mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z}+mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {delta z}$. Differentiation is closely related to finding linear approximations to functions about points. There is no constant $alpha$ so that $alpha delta z=mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{delta z}$, so conventionally we would say that no derivative could exist.



However, if I map $z$ to the real-valued vector $hat z=[mathrm{Re}{z},mathrm{Im}{z}]^T$, then the real-part function becomes the projecting matrix $R=bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. Clearly, the derivative with respect to $hat z$ of $Rhat z$ is $bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. This implies that there is something nearby to complex numbers where the derivative of $mathrm{Re}{ z}$ is defined. What am I dealing with here?










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  • The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
    – copper.hat
    Nov 20 '18 at 16:59
















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If I make a small change $delta z$ to a complex number $z$, then $mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{z}rightarrow mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z+delta z} = mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z}+mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {delta z}$. Differentiation is closely related to finding linear approximations to functions about points. There is no constant $alpha$ so that $alpha delta z=mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{delta z}$, so conventionally we would say that no derivative could exist.



However, if I map $z$ to the real-valued vector $hat z=[mathrm{Re}{z},mathrm{Im}{z}]^T$, then the real-part function becomes the projecting matrix $R=bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. Clearly, the derivative with respect to $hat z$ of $Rhat z$ is $bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. This implies that there is something nearby to complex numbers where the derivative of $mathrm{Re}{ z}$ is defined. What am I dealing with here?










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If I make a small change $delta z$ to a complex number $z$, then $mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{z}rightarrow mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z+delta z} = mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {z}+mathbb{R}mathrm{e} {delta z}$. Differentiation is closely related to finding linear approximations to functions about points. There is no constant $alpha$ so that $alpha delta z=mathbb{R}mathrm{e}{delta z}$, so conventionally we would say that no derivative could exist.



However, if I map $z$ to the real-valued vector $hat z=[mathrm{Re}{z},mathrm{Im}{z}]^T$, then the real-part function becomes the projecting matrix $R=bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. Clearly, the derivative with respect to $hat z$ of $Rhat z$ is $bigl( begin{smallmatrix}1 & 0\ 0 & 0end{smallmatrix}bigr)$. This implies that there is something nearby to complex numbers where the derivative of $mathrm{Re}{ z}$ is defined. What am I dealing with here?







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  • The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
    – copper.hat
    Nov 20 '18 at 16:59




















  • The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
    – copper.hat
    Nov 20 '18 at 16:59


















The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
– copper.hat
Nov 20 '18 at 16:59






The function $(x,y) mapsto x$ is differentiable, the function $z mapsto operatorname{re} z$ is not. Differentiability with respect to a complex scalar imposes more constraints that differentiability with respect to two real variables. Analytic functions are open maps.
– copper.hat
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Consider $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb C:(x,y)mapsto x+iy$ and its inverse $phi^{-1}:mathbb Ctomathbb R^2:zmapsto(mathop{mathrm{Re}}z,mathop{mathrm{Im}}z)$.



If $f:mathbb Ctomathbb C$ is holomorphic, then $phi^{-1}circ fcircphi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^2$ is differentiable and its differential at any point is of the form $begin{pmatrix}a&-b\b&aend{pmatrix}$, but the converse is not true. The function $f=mathop{mathrm{Re}}$ provides an example.






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  • Just a note, the form of the differential makes it look like it belongs in $mathbb{R}^{2times 2}$.
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Consider $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb C:(x,y)mapsto x+iy$ and its inverse $phi^{-1}:mathbb Ctomathbb R^2:zmapsto(mathop{mathrm{Re}}z,mathop{mathrm{Im}}z)$.



If $f:mathbb Ctomathbb C$ is holomorphic, then $phi^{-1}circ fcircphi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^2$ is differentiable and its differential at any point is of the form $begin{pmatrix}a&-b\b&aend{pmatrix}$, but the converse is not true. The function $f=mathop{mathrm{Re}}$ provides an example.






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Consider $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb C:(x,y)mapsto x+iy$ and its inverse $phi^{-1}:mathbb Ctomathbb R^2:zmapsto(mathop{mathrm{Re}}z,mathop{mathrm{Im}}z)$.



If $f:mathbb Ctomathbb C$ is holomorphic, then $phi^{-1}circ fcircphi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^2$ is differentiable and its differential at any point is of the form $begin{pmatrix}a&-b\b&aend{pmatrix}$, but the converse is not true. The function $f=mathop{mathrm{Re}}$ provides an example.






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Consider $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb C:(x,y)mapsto x+iy$ and its inverse $phi^{-1}:mathbb Ctomathbb R^2:zmapsto(mathop{mathrm{Re}}z,mathop{mathrm{Im}}z)$.



If $f:mathbb Ctomathbb C$ is holomorphic, then $phi^{-1}circ fcircphi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^2$ is differentiable and its differential at any point is of the form $begin{pmatrix}a&-b\b&aend{pmatrix}$, but the converse is not true. The function $f=mathop{mathrm{Re}}$ provides an example.






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Consider $phi:mathbb R^2tomathbb C:(x,y)mapsto x+iy$ and its inverse $phi^{-1}:mathbb Ctomathbb R^2:zmapsto(mathop{mathrm{Re}}z,mathop{mathrm{Im}}z)$.



If $f:mathbb Ctomathbb C$ is holomorphic, then $phi^{-1}circ fcircphi:mathbb R^2tomathbb R^2$ is differentiable and its differential at any point is of the form $begin{pmatrix}a&-b\b&aend{pmatrix}$, but the converse is not true. The function $f=mathop{mathrm{Re}}$ provides an example.







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