The Next Generation episode where Picard encounters a life form (alien) who speaks in allegories (not Darmok)

I'm looking for a Star Trek: The Next Generation episode where Picard encounters a life form (alien) who speaks in allegories (not Darmok). Instead of saying humans, he says "Being mostly made of water". This alien is amphibian-like. I remember this creature laughing.

I believe Picard is again alone on a planet with it. Again it is not the Darmok episode.

edited Jan 28 at 15:46

TheLethalCarrot

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The amphibian-like alien laughing is most likely from Darmok

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 16:29

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Obligatory XKCD

– Pavel
Jan 28 at 18:02

6

Was the term they used for us "ugly bags of mostly water"?

– Verdan
Jan 28 at 18:07

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Presumably you're referring to this handsome fellow. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/…

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 23:37

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I wouldn't call ‘ugly bags of mostly water’ an allegory — it's a direct description (albeit a pointedly unfamiliar one), not using symbols or story or metaphor or simile or hidden meaning or anything but literal description. (Unlike the Tamarians in ‘Darmok’, who spoke only in allegorical reference and allusion.)

– gidds
Jan 29 at 0:56

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I believe Picard is again alone on a planet with it. Again it is not the Darmok episode.

edited Jan 28 at 15:46

TheLethalCarrot

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asked Jan 28 at 15:43

Marcel

7113

2

The amphibian-like alien laughing is most likely from Darmok

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 16:29

3

Obligatory XKCD

– Pavel
Jan 28 at 18:02

6

Was the term they used for us "ugly bags of mostly water"?

– Verdan
Jan 28 at 18:07

1

Presumably you're referring to this handsome fellow. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/…

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 23:37

9

I wouldn't call ‘ugly bags of mostly water’ an allegory — it's a direct description (albeit a pointedly unfamiliar one), not using symbols or story or metaphor or simile or hidden meaning or anything but literal description. (Unlike the Tamarians in ‘Darmok’, who spoke only in allegorical reference and allusion.)

– gidds
Jan 29 at 0:56

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I believe Picard is again alone on a planet with it. Again it is not the Darmok episode.

edited Jan 28 at 15:46

TheLethalCarrot

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asked Jan 28 at 15:43

Marcel

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I believe Picard is again alone on a planet with it. Again it is not the Darmok episode.

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TheLethalCarrot

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TheLethalCarrot

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edited Jan 28 at 15:46

TheLethalCarrot

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edited Jan 28 at 15:46

TheLethalCarrot

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asked Jan 28 at 15:43

Marcel

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asked Jan 28 at 15:43

Marcel

7113

asked Jan 28 at 15:43

Marcel

7113

2

The amphibian-like alien laughing is most likely from Darmok

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 16:29

3

Obligatory XKCD

– Pavel
Jan 28 at 18:02

6

Was the term they used for us "ugly bags of mostly water"?

– Verdan
Jan 28 at 18:07

1

Presumably you're referring to this handsome fellow. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/…

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 23:37

9

I wouldn't call ‘ugly bags of mostly water’ an allegory — it's a direct description (albeit a pointedly unfamiliar one), not using symbols or story or metaphor or simile or hidden meaning or anything but literal description. (Unlike the Tamarians in ‘Darmok’, who spoke only in allegorical reference and allusion.)

– gidds
Jan 29 at 0:56

|
show 8 more comments

2

The amphibian-like alien laughing is most likely from Darmok

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 16:29

3

Obligatory XKCD

– Pavel
Jan 28 at 18:02

6

Was the term they used for us "ugly bags of mostly water"?

– Verdan
Jan 28 at 18:07

1

Presumably you're referring to this handsome fellow. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/…

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 23:37

9

I wouldn't call ‘ugly bags of mostly water’ an allegory — it's a direct description (albeit a pointedly unfamiliar one), not using symbols or story or metaphor or simile or hidden meaning or anything but literal description. (Unlike the Tamarians in ‘Darmok’, who spoke only in allegorical reference and allusion.)

– gidds
Jan 29 at 0:56

The amphibian-like alien laughing is most likely from Darmok

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 16:29

Obligatory XKCD

– Pavel
Jan 28 at 18:02

Was the term they used for us "ugly bags of mostly water"?

– Verdan
Jan 28 at 18:07

Presumably you're referring to this handsome fellow. vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/7/78/…

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 23:37

I wouldn't call ‘ugly bags of mostly water’ an allegory — it's a direct description (albeit a pointedly unfamiliar one), not using symbols or story or metaphor or simile or hidden meaning or anything but literal description. (Unlike the Tamarians in ‘Darmok’, who spoke only in allegorical reference and allusion.)

– gidds
Jan 29 at 0:56

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I think you might have confused two or more episodes. The episode Home Soil (s 1, ep17) involves the Enterprise visiting a planet believed to be completely devoid of life, except for a Federation terraforming base. The base has been experiencing mysterious & fatal accidents.

The crew eventually discovers that life is present- but not organic life as we know it. The lifeform is silicon-based and refers to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water."

However, this creature is quite small, and definitely not an amphibian, so the episode does not match your visual memory.

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

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It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

3

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

3

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

1

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

add a comment |

Are you thinking of the crystal microbrain alien they find in "Home Soil"?

It's the only time in the series that humans are refered to as bags of mostly water as far as I know.

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

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Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

6

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

add a comment |

It sounds like you are talking about TNG: Skin of Evil. The being (Armus) is black slime, refers to us as water, and Picard ends up alone with him briefly.

This was a huge episode back in the day....

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

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answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

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Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

3

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

2

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

2

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

3

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

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The crew eventually discovers that life is present- but not organic life as we know it. The lifeform is silicon-based and refers to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water."

However, this creature is quite small, and definitely not an amphibian, so the episode does not match your visual memory.

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

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25

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

3

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

3

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

1

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

add a comment |

The crew eventually discovers that life is present- but not organic life as we know it. The lifeform is silicon-based and refers to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water."

However, this creature is quite small, and definitely not an amphibian, so the episode does not match your visual memory.

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

25

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

3

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

3

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

1

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

add a comment |

The crew eventually discovers that life is present- but not organic life as we know it. The lifeform is silicon-based and refers to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water."

However, this creature is quite small, and definitely not an amphibian, so the episode does not match your visual memory.

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

The crew eventually discovers that life is present- but not organic life as we know it. The lifeform is silicon-based and refers to humans as "ugly bags of mostly water."

However, this creature is quite small, and definitely not an amphibian, so the episode does not match your visual memory.

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

answered Jan 28 at 16:04

Adele C

8,53753575

25

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

3

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

3

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

1

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

add a comment |

25

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

3

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

3

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

1

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it...

– Broklynite
Jan 28 at 16:13

@Broklynite - Man, I think you're star trekkin'! :-)

– RDFozz
Jan 28 at 17:11

Across the universe?

– Studoku
Jan 28 at 17:11

On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk?

– Hagen von Eitzen
Jan 28 at 21:53

The creature isn't amphibian in the froglike sense, but it does naturally live in a sort of wet and saline layer in the planet's soil, if I remember correctly, so there's that.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:04

add a comment |

Are you thinking of the crystal microbrain alien they find in "Home Soil"?

It's the only time in the series that humans are refered to as bags of mostly water as far as I know.

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

4

Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

6

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

add a comment |

Are you thinking of the crystal microbrain alien they find in "Home Soil"?

It's the only time in the series that humans are refered to as bags of mostly water as far as I know.

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

4

Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

6

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

add a comment |

Are you thinking of the crystal microbrain alien they find in "Home Soil"?

It's the only time in the series that humans are refered to as bags of mostly water as far as I know.

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

Are you thinking of the crystal microbrain alien they find in "Home Soil"?

It's the only time in the series that humans are refered to as bags of mostly water as far as I know.

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

edited Jan 29 at 18:38

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

answered Jan 28 at 16:00

Cupit

742414

4

Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

6

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

add a comment |

4

Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

6

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

Welcome to the site. I hope you stay and look around. This answer could be improved by explaining why you think it is the alien from Home Soil. As it stands, a link to Memory Alpha and a YouTube clip make this a link-only answer that causes the questioner to do extra work.

– Dranon
Jan 28 at 23:02

And also causes the answer to fail later, when the Memory-alpha moves to a new platform that uses different URLs, and Youtube takes down the video in response to a copyright claim by so-and-so.

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:20

Thank you. I've made a quick edit to improve the answer.

– Cupit
Jan 29 at 19:03

add a comment |

It sounds like you are talking about TNG: Skin of Evil. The being (Armus) is black slime, refers to us as water, and Picard ends up alone with him briefly.

This was a huge episode back in the day....

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

2

Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

3

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

2

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

2

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

3

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

|
show 6 more comments

It sounds like you are talking about TNG: Skin of Evil. The being (Armus) is black slime, refers to us as water, and Picard ends up alone with him briefly.

This was a huge episode back in the day....

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

2

Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

3

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

2

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

2

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

3

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

|
show 6 more comments

It sounds like you are talking about TNG: Skin of Evil. The being (Armus) is black slime, refers to us as water, and Picard ends up alone with him briefly.

This was a huge episode back in the day....

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

It sounds like you are talking about TNG: Skin of Evil. The being (Armus) is black slime, refers to us as water, and Picard ends up alone with him briefly.

This was a huge episode back in the day....

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

edited Jan 28 at 17:24

Valorum

412k11130053227

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

answered Jan 28 at 17:22

King of NES

2,46221438

2

Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

3

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

2

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

2

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

3

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

|
show 6 more comments

2

Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

3

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

2

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

2

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

3

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

Armus doesn't refer to humans as being made of water. There's a transcript here if you want to check and/or find the quote you're referring to

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 17:44

This was a huge episode? I think for most it was hugely disappointing, at least. This episode essentially served a single purpose, which felt entirely forced (because it was), and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development. Also, pretty sure this episode isn't what the question is trying to find.

– Ellesedil
Jan 28 at 18:48

@Ellesedil - It had high ratings, was extensively trailed and is usually shown as being one of the show's seminal episodes (mostly due to the death of a top billed character). That says "big" to me

– Valorum
Jan 28 at 20:14

@Ellesedil: "and that purpose wasn't the progression of any character's development" - Well, Tasha progressed into the grave, I suppose.

– Kevin
Jan 28 at 20:20

They could have just had a normal episode and thrown Tasha down an elevator shaft like they did with Dr Pulaski...

– Harper
Jan 28 at 23:26

|
show 6 more comments

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