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What is the remainder of Euclidean division of L=11111...1 (2018 times) in base 7 by 9?
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What is the remainder of Euclidean division of L=11111...1 (2018 times) in base 7 by 9?
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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What is the remainder of Euclidean division of L=11111...1 (2018 times) in base 7 by 9?
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What is the remainder of Euclidean division of L=11111...1 (2018 times) in base 7 by 9?
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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– Jordan Green
Jan 28 at 21:48
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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– Jordan Green
Jan 28 at 21:48
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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– Jordan Green
Jan 28 at 21:48
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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– Jordan Green
Jan 28 at 21:48
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Note that
$$
begin{split}L &= 1+7+7^2+7^3+7^4+7^5+ dots + 7^{2017} \
&equiv (1+7+4)+(1+7+4)+ 7^6+dots + 7^{2017} pmod{9}.
end{split}
$$
How many full repetitions of the pattern do we have? What is the equivalence class of each leftover term?
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$L = 111......111_7 = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^i$
By Euler's Th. $7^6 equiv 1 pmod 9$ and so
Direct observation we can do better: $7^3equiv(-2)^3 equiv -8 equiv 1 pmod 9$
$1 + 7 + 7^2equiv 1 -2 + 4 = 3 pmod 9$.
So $L = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^iequiv sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^{imod 3} equiv sum_{i=0}^{3*672-1+2} 7^{imod 3}$
$equiv sum_{k=1}^{672} (7^0 + 7^1 + 7^2) + 7^0 + 7^1equiv sum_{k=1}^{672}3 + 8 equiv 672(3) +8equiv 8 pmod 9$.
The remainder is $8$
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How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
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Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
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– Oscar Lanzi
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Note that
$$
begin{split}L &= 1+7+7^2+7^3+7^4+7^5+ dots + 7^{2017} \
&equiv (1+7+4)+(1+7+4)+ 7^6+dots + 7^{2017} pmod{9}.
end{split}
$$
How many full repetitions of the pattern do we have? What is the equivalence class of each leftover term?
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Note that
$$
begin{split}L &= 1+7+7^2+7^3+7^4+7^5+ dots + 7^{2017} \
&equiv (1+7+4)+(1+7+4)+ 7^6+dots + 7^{2017} pmod{9}.
end{split}
$$
How many full repetitions of the pattern do we have? What is the equivalence class of each leftover term?
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Note that
$$
begin{split}L &= 1+7+7^2+7^3+7^4+7^5+ dots + 7^{2017} \
&equiv (1+7+4)+(1+7+4)+ 7^6+dots + 7^{2017} pmod{9}.
end{split}
$$
How many full repetitions of the pattern do we have? What is the equivalence class of each leftover term?
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Note that
$$
begin{split}L &= 1+7+7^2+7^3+7^4+7^5+ dots + 7^{2017} \
&equiv (1+7+4)+(1+7+4)+ 7^6+dots + 7^{2017} pmod{9}.
end{split}
$$
How many full repetitions of the pattern do we have? What is the equivalence class of each leftover term?
edited Jan 28 at 21:05
answered Jan 28 at 20:41
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$L = 111......111_7 = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^i$
By Euler's Th. $7^6 equiv 1 pmod 9$ and so
Direct observation we can do better: $7^3equiv(-2)^3 equiv -8 equiv 1 pmod 9$
$1 + 7 + 7^2equiv 1 -2 + 4 = 3 pmod 9$.
So $L = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^iequiv sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^{imod 3} equiv sum_{i=0}^{3*672-1+2} 7^{imod 3}$
$equiv sum_{k=1}^{672} (7^0 + 7^1 + 7^2) + 7^0 + 7^1equiv sum_{k=1}^{672}3 + 8 equiv 672(3) +8equiv 8 pmod 9$.
The remainder is $8$
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How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
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Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
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$L = 111......111_7 = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^i$
By Euler's Th. $7^6 equiv 1 pmod 9$ and so
Direct observation we can do better: $7^3equiv(-2)^3 equiv -8 equiv 1 pmod 9$
$1 + 7 + 7^2equiv 1 -2 + 4 = 3 pmod 9$.
So $L = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^iequiv sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^{imod 3} equiv sum_{i=0}^{3*672-1+2} 7^{imod 3}$
$equiv sum_{k=1}^{672} (7^0 + 7^1 + 7^2) + 7^0 + 7^1equiv sum_{k=1}^{672}3 + 8 equiv 672(3) +8equiv 8 pmod 9$.
The remainder is $8$
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How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
1
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
1
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Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$L = 111......111_7 = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^i$
By Euler's Th. $7^6 equiv 1 pmod 9$ and so
Direct observation we can do better: $7^3equiv(-2)^3 equiv -8 equiv 1 pmod 9$
$1 + 7 + 7^2equiv 1 -2 + 4 = 3 pmod 9$.
So $L = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^iequiv sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^{imod 3} equiv sum_{i=0}^{3*672-1+2} 7^{imod 3}$
$equiv sum_{k=1}^{672} (7^0 + 7^1 + 7^2) + 7^0 + 7^1equiv sum_{k=1}^{672}3 + 8 equiv 672(3) +8equiv 8 pmod 9$.
The remainder is $8$
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$L = 111......111_7 = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^i$
By Euler's Th. $7^6 equiv 1 pmod 9$ and so
Direct observation we can do better: $7^3equiv(-2)^3 equiv -8 equiv 1 pmod 9$
$1 + 7 + 7^2equiv 1 -2 + 4 = 3 pmod 9$.
So $L = sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^iequiv sum_{i=0}^{2017} 7^{imod 3} equiv sum_{i=0}^{3*672-1+2} 7^{imod 3}$
$equiv sum_{k=1}^{672} (7^0 + 7^1 + 7^2) + 7^0 + 7^1equiv sum_{k=1}^{672}3 + 8 equiv 672(3) +8equiv 8 pmod 9$.
The remainder is $8$
edited Jan 28 at 23:51
Oscar Lanzi
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answered Jan 28 at 20:50
fleabloodfleablood
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How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
1
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
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– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
1
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Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
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– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
add a comment |
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How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
1
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
1
$begingroup$
Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
$begingroup$
+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
$begingroup$
How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
$begingroup$
How is $3$ times something plus $8$ a multiple of $3$? Also I thought $2016/3$ was $672$.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 21:35
1
1
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Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
$begingroup$
Good point! But $2016/6 = 336$ and $336 * 2= 772$ as everyone can do in their heads and not deign to use calculators knows.... I made arithmetic mistakes. A lot. I'll try to fix them.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:29
1
1
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Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
$begingroup$
Likewise everyone knows $3+8 = 11 equiv 3 mod 9$ because $9 + 3 = 11$. Duh! I mean.... that's obvious, right?
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 22:35
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
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+1 for the sense of humor. Always good to have a proofreader.
$endgroup$
– Oscar Lanzi
Jan 28 at 23:49
add a comment |
1
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@saulspatz in base $7$. $L =frac{7^{2018} - 1}6$.
$endgroup$
– fleablood
Jan 28 at 20:28
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@fleablood Oops, skipped right over that.
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– saulspatz
Jan 28 at 20:43
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Unfortunately, not very useful in this case, as $6$ does not have an inverse mod $9$
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– Jordan Green
Jan 28 at 21:48