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Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:



$sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$



Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?



$sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$



Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.



We then solve the inequality on the right:



$(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$



$n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$



$0 leq n$



Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.










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    Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:



    $sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$



    Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?



    $sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$



    Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.



    We then solve the inequality on the right:



    $(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$



    $n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$



    $0 leq n$



    Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.










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      Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:



      $sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$



      Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?



      $sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$



      Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.



      We then solve the inequality on the right:



      $(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$



      $n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$



      $0 leq n$



      Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.










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      Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:



      $sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$



      Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?



      $sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$



      Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.



      We then solve the inequality on the right:



      $(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$



      $n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$



      $0 leq n$



      Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.







      proof-verification inequality induction






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          No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$






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            Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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            Yes, that is my opinion.
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          Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
          $$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
          And we get
          $$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$






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            No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$






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              Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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              – Yuon
              Jan 29 at 20:17










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              Yes, that is my opinion.
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              – José Carlos Santos
              Jan 30 at 10:19
















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            $begingroup$

            No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$






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            • $begingroup$
              Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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              – Yuon
              Jan 29 at 20:17










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that is my opinion.
              $endgroup$
              – José Carlos Santos
              Jan 30 at 10:19














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            No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$






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            No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$







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            José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos

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            • $begingroup$
              Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
              $endgroup$
              – Yuon
              Jan 29 at 20:17










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that is my opinion.
              $endgroup$
              – José Carlos Santos
              Jan 30 at 10:19


















            • $begingroup$
              Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
              $endgroup$
              – Yuon
              Jan 29 at 20:17










            • $begingroup$
              Yes, that is my opinion.
              $endgroup$
              – José Carlos Santos
              Jan 30 at 10:19
















            $begingroup$
            Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
            $endgroup$
            – Yuon
            Jan 29 at 20:17




            $begingroup$
            Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
            $endgroup$
            – Yuon
            Jan 29 at 20:17












            $begingroup$
            Yes, that is my opinion.
            $endgroup$
            – José Carlos Santos
            Jan 30 at 10:19




            $begingroup$
            Yes, that is my opinion.
            $endgroup$
            – José Carlos Santos
            Jan 30 at 10:19











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            Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
            $$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
            And we get
            $$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$






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              Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
              $$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
              And we get
              $$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$






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                Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
                $$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
                And we get
                $$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$






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                Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
                $$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
                And we get
                $$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$







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