Correctness of the induction step
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Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:
$sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?
$sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.
We then solve the inequality on the right:
$(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$
$n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$
$0 leq n$
Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.
proof-verification inequality induction
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Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:
$sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?
$sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.
We then solve the inequality on the right:
$(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$
$n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$
$0 leq n$
Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.
proof-verification inequality induction
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Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:
$sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?
$sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.
We then solve the inequality on the right:
$(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$
$n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$
$0 leq n$
Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.
proof-verification inequality induction
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Prove by induction that for all $ n geq 2$ that the following:
$sum_{i = 1}^n frac{i}{i+1} < frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Looking at the $n+1$ step, is it safe to assume the following ?
$sum_{i = 1}^{n+1} frac{i}{i+1} < frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} iff frac{n+1}{n+2} leq frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2} - frac{n^2}{n+1}$
Assuming the inequality is true for $n$ we can derive that the inequality for $n+1$ stays true if the growth rate of the left side is lesser or equal to the growth rate of the right side.
We then solve the inequality on the right:
$(n+1)^2 leq (n+1)^3 -n^2(n+2)$
$n^2+2n+1 leq n^3+3n^2+3n+1 -n^3-2n^2$
$0 leq n$
Since the questions assumes $ n geq 2$ q.e.d.
proof-verification inequality induction
proof-verification inequality induction
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No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
And we get
$$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$
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No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
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No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$
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No, it is not safe to assume that. Since this is supposed to be an induction proof, what you should assume is that $sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}<frac{n^2}{n+1}$. Then$$sum_{i=1}^{n+1}frac i{i+1}=left(sum_{i=1}^nfrac i{i+1}right)+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}.$$So, all that remains to be proved is that$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}leqslantfrac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}.$$
answered Jan 29 at 19:44


José Carlos SantosJosé Carlos Santos
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Thank you ! We do arrive to the exact same inequality, does it mean the way I showed it was not rigorous enough ?
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– Yuon
Jan 29 at 20:17
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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Yes, that is my opinion.
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– José Carlos Santos
Jan 30 at 10:19
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Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
And we get
$$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$
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Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
And we get
$$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$
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Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
And we get
$$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$
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Hint: You must show that $$frac{1}{2}+frac{2}{3}+frac{3}{4}+...+frac{n}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$ and this is (using your inequality)
$$frac{n^2}{n+1}+frac{n+1}{n+2}<frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}$$
And we get
$$frac{(n+1)^2}{n+2}-frac{n+1}{n+2}-frac{n^2}{n+1}=frac{n}{(n+1) (n+2)}$$
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