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Summoning high CR monsters with Planar Ally
Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?
Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?
Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?
dnd-5e spells summoning
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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?
Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?
Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?
dnd-5e spells summoning
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 '18 at 15:25
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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?
Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?
Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?
dnd-5e spells summoning
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
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asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
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Given that a character can cast Planar Ally, what is the highest CR they can summon?
Can they summon a monster with a CR higher than their own level?
Would a level 11 cleric be able to summon a CR 19 Balor and make a deal with it?
dnd-5e spells summoning
dnd-5e spells summoning
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
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asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
조성완
1772
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
74.4k17231403
asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
조성완
1772
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
74.4k17231403
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
74.4k17231403
edited Nov 20 '18 at 14:31
KorvinStarmast
74.4k17231403
74.4k17231403
asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
조성완
1772
asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
조성완
1772
asked Nov 20 '18 at 11:11
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1772
1772
Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 '18 at 15:25
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 '18 at 15:25
Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 '18 at 15:25
Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
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Nov 20 '18 at 15:25
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.
But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).
There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...
is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.
...although it is sent to primarily aid you:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you
Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
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There is no limit, yes, and yes.
But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).
There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...
is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.
...although it is sent to primarily aid you:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you
Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
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answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
add a comment |
There is no limit, yes, and yes.
But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).
There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...
is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.
...although it is sent to primarily aid you:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you
Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
add a comment |
There is no limit, yes, and yes.
But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).
There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...
is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.
...although it is sent to primarily aid you:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you
Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
3,158929
There is no limit, yes, and yes.
But you the Cleric cannot choose what will come. Per the text of Planar ally:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you, making the creature appear in an unoccupied space within range. If you know a specific creature's name, you can speak that name when you cast this spell to request that creature, though you might get a different creature anyway (DM's choice).
There is no limitation to the creature's CR of any kind. The DM will most probably try to make it fit the scenario and fit your relationship with the otherwordly entity. Note though that the summoned creature...
is under no compulsion to behave in any particular way. You can ask the creature to perform a service in exchange for payment, but it isn't obliged to do so.
...although it is sent to primarily aid you:
That entity sends a celestial, an elemental, or a fiend loyal to it to aid you
Still, you should pray to your DM right after your Cleric finishes praying for a planar ally.
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
3,158929
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
edited Nov 20 '18 at 22:54
V2Blast
19.7k356121
19.7k356121
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
3,158929
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
3,158929
answered Nov 20 '18 at 11:20
J.E
3,158929
3,158929
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The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
add a comment |
1
The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
1
1
The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
The question is three questions, one of which is a quantitative question and not yes/no. Leading your answer with a "yes" therefore looks kind of weird. Is that "Yes, you can summon a higher CR monster, including a Balor at level 11"?
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 11:29
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
@doppelgreener you are right, of course. Will edit in accord with Dinomaster's observation
– J.E
Nov 20 '18 at 15:12
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
Thanks for the update, that's a solid clarification :)
– doppelgreener♦
Nov 20 '18 at 15:18
3
3
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
+1 for "Still, you should pray to your DM"
– Reginald Blue
Nov 20 '18 at 19:01
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Balor-summoning could make a good narrative point for a campaign. Hmm....
– SeraphsWrath
Nov 20 '18 at 15:25