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A right angle triangle is entrapped within a circle. The triangle entraps within it a circle of its own. The ratio between the big radius and the little radius is $frac{13}{4}$. What are the angles of the triangle?




Here is the problem as I understand it, given that:

1. $measuredangle ABC = 90^circ rightarrow AC = 2R$

2. The smaller radii are perpendicular to the triangle.

3. The origin of the smaller circle is the intersection between the angle bisectors of triangle ABC.



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Let $measuredangle ACB = 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle ACG = alpha$
$measuredangle BAC = 90 - 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle GAC = 45 - alpha$



From here we can construct the following system:



$$begin{cases} 2R = frac{r}{tan alpha} + frac{r}{tan(45 - alpha)} \ frac{R}{r} = frac{13}{4} rightarrow R = frac{13r}{4} end{cases}$$
$$downarrow \ frac{26r}{4} = rleft(frac{1}{tan alpha} + frac{1}{tan(45 - alpha)}right) quad / div r \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos(45 - alpha)}{sin(45 - alpha)} quad / {sin(alpha pm beta) = sinalphacosbeta pm sinbetacosalpha\ cos(alpha pm beta) = cosalphacosbeta mp sinalphasinbeta} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos alpha cos 45 + sin alpha sin 45}{sin 45 cos alpha - sin alpha cos 45} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha } + frac{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}}{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}} cdot frac{cos alpha + sin alpha}{cos alpha - sin alpha} \ 6.5 = frac{cos^2 alpha - sinalpha cos alpha + cos alpha sin alpha + sin^2 alpha}{sin(cosalpha - sin alpha)} quad / sin^2alpha + cos ^2 alpha = 1\ 6.5 = frac{1}{sinalpha (cosalpha - sin alpha)}$$



From this point on, I have no identity that I can think of which can be applied here to help me solve for $alpha$. Amusingly enough, I got an answer which was very close to the correct one, but that was only because I made a mistake in the signs of the identity, and the second fracture turned into 1.



I am aware that they may be an identity which can solve this, but I am restricted to only use the identities available here. I have either made a mistake somewhere, or just don't know how to use the available identities to solve the problem.










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    try rewriting your last equation as $cosalpha = dfrac{1}{6.5sinalpha}+sinalpha$. What happens when you square both sides?
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    @JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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A right angle triangle is entrapped within a circle. The triangle entraps within it a circle of its own. The ratio between the big radius and the little radius is $frac{13}{4}$. What are the angles of the triangle?




Here is the problem as I understand it, given that:

1. $measuredangle ABC = 90^circ rightarrow AC = 2R$

2. The smaller radii are perpendicular to the triangle.

3. The origin of the smaller circle is the intersection between the angle bisectors of triangle ABC.



enter image description here



Let $measuredangle ACB = 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle ACG = alpha$
$measuredangle BAC = 90 - 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle GAC = 45 - alpha$



From here we can construct the following system:



$$begin{cases} 2R = frac{r}{tan alpha} + frac{r}{tan(45 - alpha)} \ frac{R}{r} = frac{13}{4} rightarrow R = frac{13r}{4} end{cases}$$
$$downarrow \ frac{26r}{4} = rleft(frac{1}{tan alpha} + frac{1}{tan(45 - alpha)}right) quad / div r \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos(45 - alpha)}{sin(45 - alpha)} quad / {sin(alpha pm beta) = sinalphacosbeta pm sinbetacosalpha\ cos(alpha pm beta) = cosalphacosbeta mp sinalphasinbeta} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos alpha cos 45 + sin alpha sin 45}{sin 45 cos alpha - sin alpha cos 45} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha } + frac{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}}{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}} cdot frac{cos alpha + sin alpha}{cos alpha - sin alpha} \ 6.5 = frac{cos^2 alpha - sinalpha cos alpha + cos alpha sin alpha + sin^2 alpha}{sin(cosalpha - sin alpha)} quad / sin^2alpha + cos ^2 alpha = 1\ 6.5 = frac{1}{sinalpha (cosalpha - sin alpha)}$$



From this point on, I have no identity that I can think of which can be applied here to help me solve for $alpha$. Amusingly enough, I got an answer which was very close to the correct one, but that was only because I made a mistake in the signs of the identity, and the second fracture turned into 1.



I am aware that they may be an identity which can solve this, but I am restricted to only use the identities available here. I have either made a mistake somewhere, or just don't know how to use the available identities to solve the problem.










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    try rewriting your last equation as $cosalpha = dfrac{1}{6.5sinalpha}+sinalpha$. What happens when you square both sides?
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    @JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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A right angle triangle is entrapped within a circle. The triangle entraps within it a circle of its own. The ratio between the big radius and the little radius is $frac{13}{4}$. What are the angles of the triangle?




Here is the problem as I understand it, given that:

1. $measuredangle ABC = 90^circ rightarrow AC = 2R$

2. The smaller radii are perpendicular to the triangle.

3. The origin of the smaller circle is the intersection between the angle bisectors of triangle ABC.



enter image description here



Let $measuredangle ACB = 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle ACG = alpha$
$measuredangle BAC = 90 - 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle GAC = 45 - alpha$



From here we can construct the following system:



$$begin{cases} 2R = frac{r}{tan alpha} + frac{r}{tan(45 - alpha)} \ frac{R}{r} = frac{13}{4} rightarrow R = frac{13r}{4} end{cases}$$
$$downarrow \ frac{26r}{4} = rleft(frac{1}{tan alpha} + frac{1}{tan(45 - alpha)}right) quad / div r \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos(45 - alpha)}{sin(45 - alpha)} quad / {sin(alpha pm beta) = sinalphacosbeta pm sinbetacosalpha\ cos(alpha pm beta) = cosalphacosbeta mp sinalphasinbeta} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos alpha cos 45 + sin alpha sin 45}{sin 45 cos alpha - sin alpha cos 45} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha } + frac{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}}{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}} cdot frac{cos alpha + sin alpha}{cos alpha - sin alpha} \ 6.5 = frac{cos^2 alpha - sinalpha cos alpha + cos alpha sin alpha + sin^2 alpha}{sin(cosalpha - sin alpha)} quad / sin^2alpha + cos ^2 alpha = 1\ 6.5 = frac{1}{sinalpha (cosalpha - sin alpha)}$$



From this point on, I have no identity that I can think of which can be applied here to help me solve for $alpha$. Amusingly enough, I got an answer which was very close to the correct one, but that was only because I made a mistake in the signs of the identity, and the second fracture turned into 1.



I am aware that they may be an identity which can solve this, but I am restricted to only use the identities available here. I have either made a mistake somewhere, or just don't know how to use the available identities to solve the problem.










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A right angle triangle is entrapped within a circle. The triangle entraps within it a circle of its own. The ratio between the big radius and the little radius is $frac{13}{4}$. What are the angles of the triangle?




Here is the problem as I understand it, given that:

1. $measuredangle ABC = 90^circ rightarrow AC = 2R$

2. The smaller radii are perpendicular to the triangle.

3. The origin of the smaller circle is the intersection between the angle bisectors of triangle ABC.



enter image description here



Let $measuredangle ACB = 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle ACG = alpha$
$measuredangle BAC = 90 - 2alpha rightarrow measuredangle GAC = 45 - alpha$



From here we can construct the following system:



$$begin{cases} 2R = frac{r}{tan alpha} + frac{r}{tan(45 - alpha)} \ frac{R}{r} = frac{13}{4} rightarrow R = frac{13r}{4} end{cases}$$
$$downarrow \ frac{26r}{4} = rleft(frac{1}{tan alpha} + frac{1}{tan(45 - alpha)}right) quad / div r \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos(45 - alpha)}{sin(45 - alpha)} quad / {sin(alpha pm beta) = sinalphacosbeta pm sinbetacosalpha\ cos(alpha pm beta) = cosalphacosbeta mp sinalphasinbeta} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha} + frac{cos alpha cos 45 + sin alpha sin 45}{sin 45 cos alpha - sin alpha cos 45} \ 6.5 = frac{cos alpha}{sin alpha } + frac{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}}{frac{sqrt{2}}{2}} cdot frac{cos alpha + sin alpha}{cos alpha - sin alpha} \ 6.5 = frac{cos^2 alpha - sinalpha cos alpha + cos alpha sin alpha + sin^2 alpha}{sin(cosalpha - sin alpha)} quad / sin^2alpha + cos ^2 alpha = 1\ 6.5 = frac{1}{sinalpha (cosalpha - sin alpha)}$$



From this point on, I have no identity that I can think of which can be applied here to help me solve for $alpha$. Amusingly enough, I got an answer which was very close to the correct one, but that was only because I made a mistake in the signs of the identity, and the second fracture turned into 1.



I am aware that they may be an identity which can solve this, but I am restricted to only use the identities available here. I have either made a mistake somewhere, or just don't know how to use the available identities to solve the problem.







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    @JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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    try rewriting your last equation as $cosalpha = dfrac{1}{6.5sinalpha}+sinalpha$. What happens when you square both sides?
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    – John Joy
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    @JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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try rewriting your last equation as $cosalpha = dfrac{1}{6.5sinalpha}+sinalpha$. What happens when you square both sides?
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– John Joy
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try rewriting your last equation as $cosalpha = dfrac{1}{6.5sinalpha}+sinalpha$. What happens when you square both sides?
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– John Joy
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@JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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@JohnJoy I worked it out your way, and I get two possible solutions for an angle, with one of them being correct after disproving the other. However, I think that this amount of calculation is much beyond the level of this problem, and I suspect there's a simpler solution. Nevertheless, this works very well — thank you.
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We will use that$$2r=a+c-b$$ and $$2R=b$$ then $$16b=13a+13c-13b$$ so $$29b=13(a+c)$$ and with $$a^2+c^2=b^2$$ we can eliminate $b$ so we get
$$frac{a}{c}+frac{c}{a}=frac{169}{336}$$ from here you will get the quotient of $$frac {a}{c}$$ and thus we can calculate the angles of triangle $$Delta ABC$$






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    What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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    Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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    I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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    You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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We have
$$2R=frac{r}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{r}{tan(beta/2)},$$
hence
$$frac{13}{2}=frac{1}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{1}{tan(beta/2)}.$$
We know that $alpha+beta=pi/2$, so $beta/2=pi/4-alpha/2$. Let $t=tan(alpha/2)$. From the addition theorems for $sin$ and $cos$ derive that
$$tan(pi/4-alpha/2)=frac{1-t}{1+t}.$$ Substitute and solve the quadratic equation for $t$.






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    $$dfrac4{13}sin(45^circ -alpha+alpha)=2sinalphasin(45^circ-alpha)$$



    $$=cos(45^circ-2alpha)-cos45^circ$$






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      See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
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      I cannot use those formulae.
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      @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
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      Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
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    We will use that$$2r=a+c-b$$ and $$2R=b$$ then $$16b=13a+13c-13b$$ so $$29b=13(a+c)$$ and with $$a^2+c^2=b^2$$ we can eliminate $b$ so we get
    $$frac{a}{c}+frac{c}{a}=frac{169}{336}$$ from here you will get the quotient of $$frac {a}{c}$$ and thus we can calculate the angles of triangle $$Delta ABC$$






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      What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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      Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
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      I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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      You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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      $2b neq R$, but $b = 2R$. Typo on your part?
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    We will use that$$2r=a+c-b$$ and $$2R=b$$ then $$16b=13a+13c-13b$$ so $$29b=13(a+c)$$ and with $$a^2+c^2=b^2$$ we can eliminate $b$ so we get
    $$frac{a}{c}+frac{c}{a}=frac{169}{336}$$ from here you will get the quotient of $$frac {a}{c}$$ and thus we can calculate the angles of triangle $$Delta ABC$$






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      What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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      Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
      Jan 23 at 19:11










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      I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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      You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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      $2b neq R$, but $b = 2R$. Typo on your part?
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    We will use that$$2r=a+c-b$$ and $$2R=b$$ then $$16b=13a+13c-13b$$ so $$29b=13(a+c)$$ and with $$a^2+c^2=b^2$$ we can eliminate $b$ so we get
    $$frac{a}{c}+frac{c}{a}=frac{169}{336}$$ from here you will get the quotient of $$frac {a}{c}$$ and thus we can calculate the angles of triangle $$Delta ABC$$






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    We will use that$$2r=a+c-b$$ and $$2R=b$$ then $$16b=13a+13c-13b$$ so $$29b=13(a+c)$$ and with $$a^2+c^2=b^2$$ we can eliminate $b$ so we get
    $$frac{a}{c}+frac{c}{a}=frac{169}{336}$$ from here you will get the quotient of $$frac {a}{c}$$ and thus we can calculate the angles of triangle $$Delta ABC$$







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      What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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      Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
      Jan 23 at 19:11










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      I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
      Jan 23 at 19:11










    • $begingroup$
      You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
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      $2b neq R$, but $b = 2R$. Typo on your part?
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    • $begingroup$
      What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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      Jan 23 at 19:10












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      Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
      Jan 23 at 19:11










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      I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
      Jan 23 at 19:11










    • $begingroup$
      You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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      – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
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      $2b neq R$, but $b = 2R$. Typo on your part?
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    What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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    – daedsidog
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    $begingroup$
    What are $a$, $b$, and $c$? They certainly aren't the lengths of the triangle in your example.
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    – daedsidog
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    $begingroup$
    Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jan 23 at 19:11




    $begingroup$
    Why not? They are the side lengths of the given triangle
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    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jan 23 at 19:11












    $begingroup$
    I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jan 23 at 19:11




    $begingroup$
    I have all written what you need to solve the problem
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    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
    Jan 23 at 19:11












    $begingroup$
    You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
    $endgroup$
    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
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    $begingroup$
    You need only three formulas: $$b^2=a^2+c^2,b=2R,a+c-b=2r$$ and the given quotient $$frac{R}{r}=frac{13}{4}$$
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    – Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
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    $2b neq R$, but $b = 2R$. Typo on your part?
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    We have
    $$2R=frac{r}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{r}{tan(beta/2)},$$
    hence
    $$frac{13}{2}=frac{1}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{1}{tan(beta/2)}.$$
    We know that $alpha+beta=pi/2$, so $beta/2=pi/4-alpha/2$. Let $t=tan(alpha/2)$. From the addition theorems for $sin$ and $cos$ derive that
    $$tan(pi/4-alpha/2)=frac{1-t}{1+t}.$$ Substitute and solve the quadratic equation for $t$.






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      $begingroup$

      We have
      $$2R=frac{r}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{r}{tan(beta/2)},$$
      hence
      $$frac{13}{2}=frac{1}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{1}{tan(beta/2)}.$$
      We know that $alpha+beta=pi/2$, so $beta/2=pi/4-alpha/2$. Let $t=tan(alpha/2)$. From the addition theorems for $sin$ and $cos$ derive that
      $$tan(pi/4-alpha/2)=frac{1-t}{1+t}.$$ Substitute and solve the quadratic equation for $t$.






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        $begingroup$

        We have
        $$2R=frac{r}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{r}{tan(beta/2)},$$
        hence
        $$frac{13}{2}=frac{1}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{1}{tan(beta/2)}.$$
        We know that $alpha+beta=pi/2$, so $beta/2=pi/4-alpha/2$. Let $t=tan(alpha/2)$. From the addition theorems for $sin$ and $cos$ derive that
        $$tan(pi/4-alpha/2)=frac{1-t}{1+t}.$$ Substitute and solve the quadratic equation for $t$.






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        We have
        $$2R=frac{r}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{r}{tan(beta/2)},$$
        hence
        $$frac{13}{2}=frac{1}{tan(alpha/2)}+frac{1}{tan(beta/2)}.$$
        We know that $alpha+beta=pi/2$, so $beta/2=pi/4-alpha/2$. Let $t=tan(alpha/2)$. From the addition theorems for $sin$ and $cos$ derive that
        $$tan(pi/4-alpha/2)=frac{1-t}{1+t}.$$ Substitute and solve the quadratic equation for $t$.







        share|cite|improve this answer












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        answered Jan 23 at 19:25









        Michael HoppeMichael Hoppe

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            $$dfrac4{13}sin(45^circ -alpha+alpha)=2sinalphasin(45^circ-alpha)$$



            $$=cos(45^circ-2alpha)-cos45^circ$$






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            • $begingroup$
              See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 18:16










            • $begingroup$
              I cannot use those formulae.
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 18:19












            • $begingroup$
              @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 19:03










            • $begingroup$
              Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 19:05
















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            $begingroup$

            $$dfrac4{13}sin(45^circ -alpha+alpha)=2sinalphasin(45^circ-alpha)$$



            $$=cos(45^circ-2alpha)-cos45^circ$$






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$













            • $begingroup$
              See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 18:16










            • $begingroup$
              I cannot use those formulae.
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 18:19












            • $begingroup$
              @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 19:03










            • $begingroup$
              Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 19:05














            0












            0








            0





            $begingroup$

            $$dfrac4{13}sin(45^circ -alpha+alpha)=2sinalphasin(45^circ-alpha)$$



            $$=cos(45^circ-2alpha)-cos45^circ$$






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            $$dfrac4{13}sin(45^circ -alpha+alpha)=2sinalphasin(45^circ-alpha)$$



            $$=cos(45^circ-2alpha)-cos45^circ$$







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            answered Jan 23 at 18:15









            lab bhattacharjeelab bhattacharjee

            226k15158275




            226k15158275












            • $begingroup$
              See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 18:16










            • $begingroup$
              I cannot use those formulae.
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 18:19












            • $begingroup$
              @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 19:03










            • $begingroup$
              Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 19:05


















            • $begingroup$
              See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 18:16










            • $begingroup$
              I cannot use those formulae.
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 18:19












            • $begingroup$
              @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
              $endgroup$
              – lab bhattacharjee
              Jan 23 at 19:03










            • $begingroup$
              Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
              $endgroup$
              – daedsidog
              Jan 23 at 19:05
















            $begingroup$
            See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
            $endgroup$
            – lab bhattacharjee
            Jan 23 at 18:16




            $begingroup$
            See mathworld.wolfram.com/WernerFormulas.html
            $endgroup$
            – lab bhattacharjee
            Jan 23 at 18:16












            $begingroup$
            I cannot use those formulae.
            $endgroup$
            – daedsidog
            Jan 23 at 18:19






            $begingroup$
            I cannot use those formulae.
            $endgroup$
            – daedsidog
            Jan 23 at 18:19














            $begingroup$
            @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
            $endgroup$
            – lab bhattacharjee
            Jan 23 at 19:03




            $begingroup$
            @daedsidog, can you use $cos(x-y)-cos(x+y)=?$
            $endgroup$
            – lab bhattacharjee
            Jan 23 at 19:03












            $begingroup$
            Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
            $endgroup$
            – daedsidog
            Jan 23 at 19:05




            $begingroup$
            Here's the list of identities I can use: roygeva.co.il/file/CKFiles/trig.pdf
            $endgroup$
            – daedsidog
            Jan 23 at 19:05


















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