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What exactly is a mathetmatical proof? From this question it's clear it doesn't require any special symbols.



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[Computer] Viruses have no “cure.” It’s been mathematically proven that it is
always possible to write a virus that any existing antivirus program
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[0] Secrets & Lies. Bruce Schneier. Page 154




In these contexts what does it even mean to be mathematically proven? Does it just mean logic was used?










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    A mathematical proof is so if the community of mathematicians recognise it as such.
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What exactly is a mathetmatical proof? From this question it's clear it doesn't require any special symbols.



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[Computer] Viruses have no “cure.” It’s been mathematically proven that it is
always possible to write a virus that any existing antivirus program
can’t stop." [0]



[0] Secrets & Lies. Bruce Schneier. Page 154




In these contexts what does it even mean to be mathematically proven? Does it just mean logic was used?










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This question already has an answer here:




  • What is a proof?

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What exactly is a mathetmatical proof? From this question it's clear it doesn't require any special symbols.



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[Computer] Viruses have no “cure.” It’s been mathematically proven that it is
always possible to write a virus that any existing antivirus program
can’t stop." [0]



[0] Secrets & Lies. Bruce Schneier. Page 154




In these contexts what does it even mean to be mathematically proven? Does it just mean logic was used?










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  • What is a proof?

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What exactly is a mathetmatical proof? From this question it's clear it doesn't require any special symbols.



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[Computer] Viruses have no “cure.” It’s been mathematically proven that it is
always possible to write a virus that any existing antivirus program
can’t stop." [0]



[0] Secrets & Lies. Bruce Schneier. Page 154




In these contexts what does it even mean to be mathematically proven? Does it just mean logic was used?





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marked as duplicate by Lord Shark the Unknown, Blue, Ethan Bolker, Namaste, Cesareo Jan 24 at 0:17


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    A mathematical proof is so if the community of mathematicians recognise it as such.
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Jan 23 at 19:36














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    A mathematical proof is so if the community of mathematicians recognise it as such.
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Jan 23 at 19:36








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A mathematical proof is so if the community of mathematicians recognise it as such.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 23 at 19:36




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A mathematical proof is a logical argument that proceeds from some assumptions to some conclusions. Symbols are not necessary. In my opinion, good proofs rely on words as much as possible, use symbols only when necessary.



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Has it been mathematically proven that antivirus can't detect all
viruses?




has an answer that says the answer is "yes" if you accept a certain precisely stated set of assumptions and define "detect" precisely. Whether those assumptions capture the everyday meaning of "detect a computer virus" isn't a mathematical question.



Related:



How rigorous must my set theory proof be?



Why is there not a system for computer checking mathematical proofs yet (2018)?






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A mathematical proof is a logical argument that proceeds from some assumptions to some conclusions. Symbols are not necessary. In my opinion, good proofs rely on words as much as possible, use symbols only when necessary.



The question you link to




Has it been mathematically proven that antivirus can't detect all
viruses?




has an answer that says the answer is "yes" if you accept a certain precisely stated set of assumptions and define "detect" precisely. Whether those assumptions capture the everyday meaning of "detect a computer virus" isn't a mathematical question.



Related:



How rigorous must my set theory proof be?



Why is there not a system for computer checking mathematical proofs yet (2018)?






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A mathematical proof is a logical argument that proceeds from some assumptions to some conclusions. Symbols are not necessary. In my opinion, good proofs rely on words as much as possible, use symbols only when necessary.



The question you link to




Has it been mathematically proven that antivirus can't detect all
viruses?




has an answer that says the answer is "yes" if you accept a certain precisely stated set of assumptions and define "detect" precisely. Whether those assumptions capture the everyday meaning of "detect a computer virus" isn't a mathematical question.



Related:



How rigorous must my set theory proof be?



Why is there not a system for computer checking mathematical proofs yet (2018)?






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    Thanks, I was going to delete my question but your answer provides interesting information
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    – northerner
    Jan 24 at 0:47














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A mathematical proof is a logical argument that proceeds from some assumptions to some conclusions. Symbols are not necessary. In my opinion, good proofs rely on words as much as possible, use symbols only when necessary.



The question you link to




Has it been mathematically proven that antivirus can't detect all
viruses?




has an answer that says the answer is "yes" if you accept a certain precisely stated set of assumptions and define "detect" precisely. Whether those assumptions capture the everyday meaning of "detect a computer virus" isn't a mathematical question.



Related:



How rigorous must my set theory proof be?



Why is there not a system for computer checking mathematical proofs yet (2018)?






share|cite|improve this answer









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A mathematical proof is a logical argument that proceeds from some assumptions to some conclusions. Symbols are not necessary. In my opinion, good proofs rely on words as much as possible, use symbols only when necessary.



The question you link to




Has it been mathematically proven that antivirus can't detect all
viruses?




has an answer that says the answer is "yes" if you accept a certain precisely stated set of assumptions and define "detect" precisely. Whether those assumptions capture the everyday meaning of "detect a computer virus" isn't a mathematical question.



Related:



How rigorous must my set theory proof be?



Why is there not a system for computer checking mathematical proofs yet (2018)?







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Thanks, I was going to delete my question but your answer provides interesting information
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