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I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



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    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
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    That was one of my problems ^^
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I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!










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    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
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    That was one of my problems ^^
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    – Max Michel
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I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!










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I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!







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    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
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    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










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    That was one of my problems ^^
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    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58


















  • $begingroup$
    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










  • $begingroup$
    That was one of my problems ^^
    $endgroup$
    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58
















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What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
$endgroup$
– pwerth
Jan 24 at 19:47




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What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
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– pwerth
Jan 24 at 19:47












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That was one of my problems ^^
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– Max Michel
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Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
$$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
$$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






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    Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
    $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
    $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






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      Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
      $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
      $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






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        Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
        $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
        $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






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        Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
        $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
        $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$







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