Simplification with exponents












0












$begingroup$


I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










  • $begingroup$
    That was one of my problems ^^
    $endgroup$
    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58
















0












$begingroup$


I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










  • $begingroup$
    That was one of my problems ^^
    $endgroup$
    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58














0












0








0





$begingroup$


I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$




I'm currently revising an exam about channel coding in telecommunications and we have a question where we need to isolate a variable $u$ in terms of another variable $q$. Currently, I am stuck with a rather difficult expression to simplify or at least I can't see what the trick is (if there is one). Here is the said expression:



$$log_2big(q^q(1-q)^{1-q}big) = log_2bigg((frac{qu}{1-qu})^qbigg)$$



Being perfectly honest, I know that the $log_2$ simplifies on each side but having $u$ in both the numerator and denominator of the fraction which has an overall exponent, I'm quite out of my comfort zone mathematically.



Thanks in advance!







calculus exponentiation coding-theory






share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Jan 24 at 19:42









Max MichelMax Michel

32




32












  • $begingroup$
    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










  • $begingroup$
    That was one of my problems ^^
    $endgroup$
    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58


















  • $begingroup$
    What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
    $endgroup$
    – pwerth
    Jan 24 at 19:47










  • $begingroup$
    That was one of my problems ^^
    $endgroup$
    – Max Michel
    Jan 24 at 19:58
















$begingroup$
What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
$endgroup$
– pwerth
Jan 24 at 19:47




$begingroup$
What is $u$? It doesn't appear in the left hand side
$endgroup$
– pwerth
Jan 24 at 19:47












$begingroup$
That was one of my problems ^^
$endgroup$
– Max Michel
Jan 24 at 19:58




$begingroup$
That was one of my problems ^^
$endgroup$
– Max Michel
Jan 24 at 19:58










1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes


















0












$begingroup$

Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
$$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
$$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













    Your Answer





    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
    StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
    StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
    });
    });
    }, "mathjax-editing");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "69"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });














    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3086274%2fsimplification-with-exponents%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes








    1 Answer
    1






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    0












    $begingroup$

    Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
    $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
    $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






    share|cite|improve this answer









    $endgroup$


















      0












      $begingroup$

      Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
      $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
      $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






      share|cite|improve this answer









      $endgroup$
















        0












        0








        0





        $begingroup$

        Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
        $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
        $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Since we have on both sides the base $2$ we get
        $$q^q(1-q)^{1-q}=left(frac {qu}{1-qu}right)^q$$ Let's say $$A=q^q(1-q)^{1-q}$$ then $$a^{1/q}=frac{qu}{1-qu}$$ so $$A^{1/q}-qA^{1/q}=qu$$ and $$A^{1/q}-quA^{1/q}=qu$$ so $$A^{1/q}=u(q+qA^{1/q})$$ and we obtain
        $$u=frac{A^{1/q}}{q+qA^{1/q}}$$







        share|cite|improve this answer












        share|cite|improve this answer



        share|cite|improve this answer










        answered Jan 24 at 19:52









        Dr. Sonnhard GraubnerDr. Sonnhard Graubner

        77.9k42866




        77.9k42866






























            draft saved

            draft discarded




















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3086274%2fsimplification-with-exponents%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            Can a sorcerer learn a 5th-level spell early by creating spell slots using the Font of Magic feature?

            Does disintegrating a polymorphed enemy still kill it after the 2018 errata?

            A Topological Invariant for $pi_3(U(n))$