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Is there a gerundive of “faciō”?
Faciō, "to make" or "to do", is a common Latin verb. It's famous for being suppletive: it's missing most of its passive forms, and instead uses the active forms of the separate verb fiō "to become". (Compare English "go", which lost its past tense and had to steal some forms from the separate verb "wend".)
If I wanted to say that something "must be made", using a gerundive of obligation, how would I do that? Is that one of the rare passive forms of faciō that does exist, and can be used normally? Or would I use a gerundive of fiō instead, even though it's morphologically a passive form?
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Faciō, "to make" or "to do", is a common Latin verb. It's famous for being suppletive: it's missing most of its passive forms, and instead uses the active forms of the separate verb fiō "to become". (Compare English "go", which lost its past tense and had to steal some forms from the separate verb "wend".)
If I wanted to say that something "must be made", using a gerundive of obligation, how would I do that? Is that one of the rare passive forms of faciō that does exist, and can be used normally? Or would I use a gerundive of fiō instead, even though it's morphologically a passive form?
morphologia passive gerundivum suppletion
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Faciō, "to make" or "to do", is a common Latin verb. It's famous for being suppletive: it's missing most of its passive forms, and instead uses the active forms of the separate verb fiō "to become". (Compare English "go", which lost its past tense and had to steal some forms from the separate verb "wend".)
If I wanted to say that something "must be made", using a gerundive of obligation, how would I do that? Is that one of the rare passive forms of faciō that does exist, and can be used normally? Or would I use a gerundive of fiō instead, even though it's morphologically a passive form?
morphologia passive gerundivum suppletion
asked Jan 24 at 17:53
DraconisDraconis
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Faciō, "to make" or "to do", is a common Latin verb. It's famous for being suppletive: it's missing most of its passive forms, and instead uses the active forms of the separate verb fiō "to become". (Compare English "go", which lost its past tense and had to steal some forms from the separate verb "wend".)
If I wanted to say that something "must be made", using a gerundive of obligation, how would I do that? Is that one of the rare passive forms of faciō that does exist, and can be used normally? Or would I use a gerundive of fiō instead, even though it's morphologically a passive form?
morphologia passive gerundivum suppletion
morphologia passive gerundivum suppletion
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Yes, there is. A couple of notes:
Faciendus (-a, -um) is attested. Perseus gives 21 results of the former. These include several forms of faciendus + [esse] (est, erat, esset)
There is also a number of instances of gerund faciendum, -i, -o
Ad faciendum:
Ad satis faciendum (Cic. Clu. 4):
Etenim tibi si in praesentia non potuero, tamen multae mihi ad satis faciendum reliquo tempore facultates dabuntur
Ad male faciendum (Pl. Epid. 3.2.44):
Nimis dóctus ille est ad male faciendum.
answered Jan 24 at 18:13
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
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Yes, there is. A couple of notes:
Faciendus (-a, -um) is attested. Perseus gives 21 results of the former. These include several forms of faciendus + [esse] (est, erat, esset)
There is also a number of instances of gerund faciendum, -i, -o
Ad faciendum:
Ad satis faciendum (Cic. Clu. 4):
Etenim tibi si in praesentia non potuero, tamen multae mihi ad satis faciendum reliquo tempore facultates dabuntur
Ad male faciendum (Pl. Epid. 3.2.44):
Nimis dóctus ille est ad male faciendum.
answered Jan 24 at 18:13
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
– Cerberus♦
Jan 24 at 18:30
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Yes, there is. A couple of notes:
Faciendus (-a, -um) is attested. Perseus gives 21 results of the former. These include several forms of faciendus + [esse] (est, erat, esset)
There is also a number of instances of gerund faciendum, -i, -o
Ad faciendum:
Ad satis faciendum (Cic. Clu. 4):
Etenim tibi si in praesentia non potuero, tamen multae mihi ad satis faciendum reliquo tempore facultates dabuntur
Ad male faciendum (Pl. Epid. 3.2.44):
Nimis dóctus ille est ad male faciendum.
answered Jan 24 at 18:13
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
– Cerberus♦
Jan 24 at 18:30
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Yes, there is. A couple of notes:
Faciendus (-a, -um) is attested. Perseus gives 21 results of the former. These include several forms of faciendus + [esse] (est, erat, esset)
There is also a number of instances of gerund faciendum, -i, -o
Ad faciendum:
Ad satis faciendum (Cic. Clu. 4):
Etenim tibi si in praesentia non potuero, tamen multae mihi ad satis faciendum reliquo tempore facultates dabuntur
Ad male faciendum (Pl. Epid. 3.2.44):
Nimis dóctus ille est ad male faciendum.
answered Jan 24 at 18:13
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Yes, there is. A couple of notes:
Faciendus (-a, -um) is attested. Perseus gives 21 results of the former. These include several forms of faciendus + [esse] (est, erat, esset)
There is also a number of instances of gerund faciendum, -i, -o
Ad faciendum:
Ad satis faciendum (Cic. Clu. 4):
Etenim tibi si in praesentia non potuero, tamen multae mihi ad satis faciendum reliquo tempore facultates dabuntur
Ad male faciendum (Pl. Epid. 3.2.44):
Nimis dóctus ille est ad male faciendum.
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
– Cerberus♦
Jan 24 at 18:30
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
– Cerberus♦
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You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
– Cerberus♦
Jan 24 at 18:30
You could also search for forms with faciund-. Combined, there are quite a few results, although, as you implied, quite a few will be gerunds rather than gerundives. latin.packhum.org/search?q=%23faciend+%7C+%23faciund
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