At what rate is the angle $theta$ changing when 10 ft. of rope is out?












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A dinghy is pulled toward a dock by a rope from the bow through a ring on the dock 6 ft. above the bow. The rope is hauled in a rate of 2 ft/s.



At what rate is the angle $theta$ changing when 10 ft. of rope is out?



boat_approaching_dock



I understand related rates problems, but the trig and angle part of the question is confusing me. How do I solve this?










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    Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
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    – John Douma
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    The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
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    – Doug M
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    Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
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    Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
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    – N. F. Taussig
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    @N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
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    – user10984587
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A dinghy is pulled toward a dock by a rope from the bow through a ring on the dock 6 ft. above the bow. The rope is hauled in a rate of 2 ft/s.



At what rate is the angle $theta$ changing when 10 ft. of rope is out?



boat_approaching_dock



I understand related rates problems, but the trig and angle part of the question is confusing me. How do I solve this?










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    Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
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    – John Douma
    Jun 14 '16 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
    $endgroup$
    – Doug M
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:11












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    Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
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    – user10984587
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:17












  • $begingroup$
    Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
    $endgroup$
    – N. F. Taussig
    Jun 15 '16 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
    $endgroup$
    – user10984587
    Jun 15 '16 at 22:40
















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A dinghy is pulled toward a dock by a rope from the bow through a ring on the dock 6 ft. above the bow. The rope is hauled in a rate of 2 ft/s.



At what rate is the angle $theta$ changing when 10 ft. of rope is out?



boat_approaching_dock



I understand related rates problems, but the trig and angle part of the question is confusing me. How do I solve this?










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A dinghy is pulled toward a dock by a rope from the bow through a ring on the dock 6 ft. above the bow. The rope is hauled in a rate of 2 ft/s.



At what rate is the angle $theta$ changing when 10 ft. of rope is out?



boat_approaching_dock



I understand related rates problems, but the trig and angle part of the question is confusing me. How do I solve this?







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  • $begingroup$
    Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
    $endgroup$
    – John Douma
    Jun 14 '16 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
    $endgroup$
    – Doug M
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:11












  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
    $endgroup$
    – user10984587
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:17












  • $begingroup$
    Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
    $endgroup$
    – N. F. Taussig
    Jun 15 '16 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
    $endgroup$
    – user10984587
    Jun 15 '16 at 22:40




















  • $begingroup$
    Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
    $endgroup$
    – John Douma
    Jun 14 '16 at 18:57










  • $begingroup$
    The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
    $endgroup$
    – Doug M
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:11












  • $begingroup$
    Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
    $endgroup$
    – user10984587
    Jun 14 '16 at 19:17












  • $begingroup$
    Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
    $endgroup$
    – N. F. Taussig
    Jun 15 '16 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
    $endgroup$
    – user10984587
    Jun 15 '16 at 22:40


















$begingroup$
Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
$endgroup$
– John Douma
Jun 14 '16 at 18:57




$begingroup$
Draw a picture. How are the 6, 10 and $theta$ related? Which derivative corresponds to 2 ft/s?
$endgroup$
– John Douma
Jun 14 '16 at 18:57












$begingroup$
The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Jun 14 '16 at 19:11






$begingroup$
The height of the dock is fixed. So the length of the rope $r = 6sectheta,frac{dr}{dt} = 2 ft/s = 6 sectheta tantheta frac{dtheta}{dt}$
$endgroup$
– Doug M
Jun 14 '16 at 19:11














$begingroup$
Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
$endgroup$
– user10984587
Jun 14 '16 at 19:17






$begingroup$
Thanks for all the help! I got $dtheta/dt = (1/3)(costheta cottheta) = (1/3)(6/10)(6/8) = 3/20 theta$.
$endgroup$
– user10984587
Jun 14 '16 at 19:17














$begingroup$
Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
$endgroup$
– N. F. Taussig
Jun 15 '16 at 10:18




$begingroup$
Is $theta$ the angle the rope forms with the water or the angle the rope forms with the side of the dock?
$endgroup$
– N. F. Taussig
Jun 15 '16 at 10:18












$begingroup$
@N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
$endgroup$
– user10984587
Jun 15 '16 at 22:40






$begingroup$
@N.F.Taussig Here's a picture for a better explanation: Page 7. I believe the answer to your question is the side of the dock.
$endgroup$
– user10984587
Jun 15 '16 at 22:40












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You have the relation $costheta=dfrac{6}{r}$ so $-sin(theta)dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=-dfrac{6}{r^2}dfrac{dr}{dt}$, or



begin{equation}
sin(theta)frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{6}{r^2}frac{dr}{dt}
end{equation}



When $r=10$ we know that $dfrac{dr}{dt}=-2$ and $sin(theta)=dfrac{6}{10}=dfrac{3}{5}$ so



begin{equation}
dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{5}{3}cdotfrac{6}{100}(-2)=-frac{1}{5} text{ per seconds}
end{equation}






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    You have the relation $costheta=dfrac{6}{r}$ so $-sin(theta)dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=-dfrac{6}{r^2}dfrac{dr}{dt}$, or



    begin{equation}
    sin(theta)frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{6}{r^2}frac{dr}{dt}
    end{equation}



    When $r=10$ we know that $dfrac{dr}{dt}=-2$ and $sin(theta)=dfrac{6}{10}=dfrac{3}{5}$ so



    begin{equation}
    dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{5}{3}cdotfrac{6}{100}(-2)=-frac{1}{5} text{ per seconds}
    end{equation}






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      You have the relation $costheta=dfrac{6}{r}$ so $-sin(theta)dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=-dfrac{6}{r^2}dfrac{dr}{dt}$, or



      begin{equation}
      sin(theta)frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{6}{r^2}frac{dr}{dt}
      end{equation}



      When $r=10$ we know that $dfrac{dr}{dt}=-2$ and $sin(theta)=dfrac{6}{10}=dfrac{3}{5}$ so



      begin{equation}
      dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{5}{3}cdotfrac{6}{100}(-2)=-frac{1}{5} text{ per seconds}
      end{equation}






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        You have the relation $costheta=dfrac{6}{r}$ so $-sin(theta)dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=-dfrac{6}{r^2}dfrac{dr}{dt}$, or



        begin{equation}
        sin(theta)frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{6}{r^2}frac{dr}{dt}
        end{equation}



        When $r=10$ we know that $dfrac{dr}{dt}=-2$ and $sin(theta)=dfrac{6}{10}=dfrac{3}{5}$ so



        begin{equation}
        dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{5}{3}cdotfrac{6}{100}(-2)=-frac{1}{5} text{ per seconds}
        end{equation}






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        You have the relation $costheta=dfrac{6}{r}$ so $-sin(theta)dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=-dfrac{6}{r^2}dfrac{dr}{dt}$, or



        begin{equation}
        sin(theta)frac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{6}{r^2}frac{dr}{dt}
        end{equation}



        When $r=10$ we know that $dfrac{dr}{dt}=-2$ and $sin(theta)=dfrac{6}{10}=dfrac{3}{5}$ so



        begin{equation}
        dfrac{dtheta}{dt}=frac{5}{3}cdotfrac{6}{100}(-2)=-frac{1}{5} text{ per seconds}
        end{equation}







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