Why can't we use RefCell for recursive data structures?





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Why can't we use RefCell for recursive data structures in Rust?



Invalid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, RefCell<List>),
Nil,
}


Valid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, Rc<List>), // or Box<List>
Nil,
}









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  • Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

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  • This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

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    Jan 4 at 4:27


















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Why can't we use RefCell for recursive data structures in Rust?



Invalid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, RefCell<List>),
Nil,
}


Valid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, Rc<List>), // or Box<List>
Nil,
}









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  • Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

    – trentcl
    Jan 3 at 17:12











  • This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

    – sidoshi
    Jan 4 at 4:27














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Why can't we use RefCell for recursive data structures in Rust?



Invalid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, RefCell<List>),
Nil,
}


Valid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, Rc<List>), // or Box<List>
Nil,
}









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Why can't we use RefCell for recursive data structures in Rust?



Invalid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, RefCell<List>),
Nil,
}


Valid:



enum List {
Cons(i32, Rc<List>), // or Box<List>
Nil,
}






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  • Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

    – trentcl
    Jan 3 at 17:12











  • This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

    – sidoshi
    Jan 4 at 4:27



















  • Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

    – trentcl
    Jan 3 at 17:12











  • This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

    – sidoshi
    Jan 4 at 4:27

















Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

– trentcl
Jan 3 at 17:12





Is this similar enough to Why are recursive struct types illegal in Rust? that it can be closed as a duplicate?

– trentcl
Jan 3 at 17:12













This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

– sidoshi
Jan 4 at 4:27





This question is different. I understand why recursive types are invalid and that we can solve that using indirection. But I assume all smart pointers provide indirection since, after all, they are pointers. So my question is is why doesn't RefCell provide indirection?

– sidoshi
Jan 4 at 4:27












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RefCell contains the object inside, wrapping it, it's not a heap allocated value. That's why the compiler says "recursive without indirection": RefCell is not an indirection.



Box and Rc, on the other hand, contain a reference to an object allocated somewhere else, and therefore are indirections.



Without an indirection, the List enum ends up being infinite since every Cons contains a full List enum inside its RefCell.



You can not do recursive data structures that contain themselves as values, only as pointers or references.






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    RefCell contains the object inside, wrapping it, it's not a heap allocated value. That's why the compiler says "recursive without indirection": RefCell is not an indirection.



    Box and Rc, on the other hand, contain a reference to an object allocated somewhere else, and therefore are indirections.



    Without an indirection, the List enum ends up being infinite since every Cons contains a full List enum inside its RefCell.



    You can not do recursive data structures that contain themselves as values, only as pointers or references.






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      RefCell contains the object inside, wrapping it, it's not a heap allocated value. That's why the compiler says "recursive without indirection": RefCell is not an indirection.



      Box and Rc, on the other hand, contain a reference to an object allocated somewhere else, and therefore are indirections.



      Without an indirection, the List enum ends up being infinite since every Cons contains a full List enum inside its RefCell.



      You can not do recursive data structures that contain themselves as values, only as pointers or references.






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        RefCell contains the object inside, wrapping it, it's not a heap allocated value. That's why the compiler says "recursive without indirection": RefCell is not an indirection.



        Box and Rc, on the other hand, contain a reference to an object allocated somewhere else, and therefore are indirections.



        Without an indirection, the List enum ends up being infinite since every Cons contains a full List enum inside its RefCell.



        You can not do recursive data structures that contain themselves as values, only as pointers or references.






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        RefCell contains the object inside, wrapping it, it's not a heap allocated value. That's why the compiler says "recursive without indirection": RefCell is not an indirection.



        Box and Rc, on the other hand, contain a reference to an object allocated somewhere else, and therefore are indirections.



        Without an indirection, the List enum ends up being infinite since every Cons contains a full List enum inside its RefCell.



        You can not do recursive data structures that contain themselves as values, only as pointers or references.







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