Finding the cumulative distribution function of the sum of two functions of two independent random variables












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Since we want two real roots, then we're looking for a positive discriminant.



Let $Z$ be the random variable representing the value taken by the discriminant.



So,
$$Z = 4(U^2 - V)$$



However, I don't know where to take it from here.



Any Hints would be really appreciated.



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    Since we want two real roots, then we're looking for a positive discriminant.



    Let $Z$ be the random variable representing the value taken by the discriminant.



    So,
    $$Z = 4(U^2 - V)$$



    However, I don't know where to take it from here.



    Any Hints would be really appreciated.



    Thanks










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      $begingroup$


      enter image description here



      Since we want two real roots, then we're looking for a positive discriminant.



      Let $Z$ be the random variable representing the value taken by the discriminant.



      So,
      $$Z = 4(U^2 - V)$$



      However, I don't know where to take it from here.



      Any Hints would be really appreciated.



      Thanks










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      enter image description here



      Since we want two real roots, then we're looking for a positive discriminant.



      Let $Z$ be the random variable representing the value taken by the discriminant.



      So,
      $$Z = 4(U^2 - V)$$



      However, I don't know where to take it from here.



      Any Hints would be really appreciated.



      Thanks







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          We want to find $mathbb P(Z>0)$, or $mathbb P(U^2>V)$. For $0<t<1$ we have
          $$
          mathbb P(U^2leqslant t) = mathbb P(Uleqslant t^{frac12}) = t^{frac12}
          $$

          and so $U^2$ has density
          $$
          f(t) = frac12 t^{-frac12}mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t).
          $$

          We know already that $V$ has density $g(t) = mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t)$, so integrating over the joint density we have
          begin{align}
          mathbb P(U^2>V) &= int_0^1 int_t^1 frac12 s^{-frac12} mathsf ds mathsf dt\
          &= int_0^1 (1-t^{frac12}) mathsf dt\
          &= frac13.
          end{align}






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            $P{U^{2} >V}=EP({U^{2} >V}|U})=EU^{2}=int _0^{1} u^{2}, du =frac 1 3$.






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              The positive discriminant implies $Z=4(U^2-V)>0$, hence you need to find $mathbb P(U^2-V>0)$. Refer to the graph:



              $hspace{1cm}$enter image description here



              The required probability is the green area:
              $$mathbb P(U^2-V>0)=mathbb P(V<U^2)=int_0^1 U^2 dU=frac{U^3}{3}bigg{|}_0^1=frac13.$$






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                $begingroup$

                We want to find $mathbb P(Z>0)$, or $mathbb P(U^2>V)$. For $0<t<1$ we have
                $$
                mathbb P(U^2leqslant t) = mathbb P(Uleqslant t^{frac12}) = t^{frac12}
                $$

                and so $U^2$ has density
                $$
                f(t) = frac12 t^{-frac12}mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t).
                $$

                We know already that $V$ has density $g(t) = mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t)$, so integrating over the joint density we have
                begin{align}
                mathbb P(U^2>V) &= int_0^1 int_t^1 frac12 s^{-frac12} mathsf ds mathsf dt\
                &= int_0^1 (1-t^{frac12}) mathsf dt\
                &= frac13.
                end{align}






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                  $begingroup$

                  We want to find $mathbb P(Z>0)$, or $mathbb P(U^2>V)$. For $0<t<1$ we have
                  $$
                  mathbb P(U^2leqslant t) = mathbb P(Uleqslant t^{frac12}) = t^{frac12}
                  $$

                  and so $U^2$ has density
                  $$
                  f(t) = frac12 t^{-frac12}mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t).
                  $$

                  We know already that $V$ has density $g(t) = mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t)$, so integrating over the joint density we have
                  begin{align}
                  mathbb P(U^2>V) &= int_0^1 int_t^1 frac12 s^{-frac12} mathsf ds mathsf dt\
                  &= int_0^1 (1-t^{frac12}) mathsf dt\
                  &= frac13.
                  end{align}






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                    $begingroup$

                    We want to find $mathbb P(Z>0)$, or $mathbb P(U^2>V)$. For $0<t<1$ we have
                    $$
                    mathbb P(U^2leqslant t) = mathbb P(Uleqslant t^{frac12}) = t^{frac12}
                    $$

                    and so $U^2$ has density
                    $$
                    f(t) = frac12 t^{-frac12}mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t).
                    $$

                    We know already that $V$ has density $g(t) = mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t)$, so integrating over the joint density we have
                    begin{align}
                    mathbb P(U^2>V) &= int_0^1 int_t^1 frac12 s^{-frac12} mathsf ds mathsf dt\
                    &= int_0^1 (1-t^{frac12}) mathsf dt\
                    &= frac13.
                    end{align}






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                    We want to find $mathbb P(Z>0)$, or $mathbb P(U^2>V)$. For $0<t<1$ we have
                    $$
                    mathbb P(U^2leqslant t) = mathbb P(Uleqslant t^{frac12}) = t^{frac12}
                    $$

                    and so $U^2$ has density
                    $$
                    f(t) = frac12 t^{-frac12}mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t).
                    $$

                    We know already that $V$ has density $g(t) = mathsf 1_{(0,1)}(t)$, so integrating over the joint density we have
                    begin{align}
                    mathbb P(U^2>V) &= int_0^1 int_t^1 frac12 s^{-frac12} mathsf ds mathsf dt\
                    &= int_0^1 (1-t^{frac12}) mathsf dt\
                    &= frac13.
                    end{align}







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                        $P{U^{2} >V}=EP({U^{2} >V}|U})=EU^{2}=int _0^{1} u^{2}, du =frac 1 3$.






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                          $P{U^{2} >V}=EP({U^{2} >V}|U})=EU^{2}=int _0^{1} u^{2}, du =frac 1 3$.






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                            $P{U^{2} >V}=EP({U^{2} >V}|U})=EU^{2}=int _0^{1} u^{2}, du =frac 1 3$.






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                            $P{U^{2} >V}=EP({U^{2} >V}|U})=EU^{2}=int _0^{1} u^{2}, du =frac 1 3$.







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                                The positive discriminant implies $Z=4(U^2-V)>0$, hence you need to find $mathbb P(U^2-V>0)$. Refer to the graph:



                                $hspace{1cm}$enter image description here



                                The required probability is the green area:
                                $$mathbb P(U^2-V>0)=mathbb P(V<U^2)=int_0^1 U^2 dU=frac{U^3}{3}bigg{|}_0^1=frac13.$$






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                                  $begingroup$

                                  The positive discriminant implies $Z=4(U^2-V)>0$, hence you need to find $mathbb P(U^2-V>0)$. Refer to the graph:



                                  $hspace{1cm}$enter image description here



                                  The required probability is the green area:
                                  $$mathbb P(U^2-V>0)=mathbb P(V<U^2)=int_0^1 U^2 dU=frac{U^3}{3}bigg{|}_0^1=frac13.$$






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                                    $begingroup$

                                    The positive discriminant implies $Z=4(U^2-V)>0$, hence you need to find $mathbb P(U^2-V>0)$. Refer to the graph:



                                    $hspace{1cm}$enter image description here



                                    The required probability is the green area:
                                    $$mathbb P(U^2-V>0)=mathbb P(V<U^2)=int_0^1 U^2 dU=frac{U^3}{3}bigg{|}_0^1=frac13.$$






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                                    The positive discriminant implies $Z=4(U^2-V)>0$, hence you need to find $mathbb P(U^2-V>0)$. Refer to the graph:



                                    $hspace{1cm}$enter image description here



                                    The required probability is the green area:
                                    $$mathbb P(U^2-V>0)=mathbb P(V<U^2)=int_0^1 U^2 dU=frac{U^3}{3}bigg{|}_0^1=frac13.$$







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