How do you prove that $frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$? [duplicate]












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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:



$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.



I then tried to say that



$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$



and



$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!



edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.










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    The right hand side should be $1/n$
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    You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:



$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.



I then tried to say that



$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$



and



$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!



edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.










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marked as duplicate by StubbornAtom, RRL, A. Pongrácz, callculus, Shubham Johri Jan 7 at 12:37


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    The right hand side should be $1/n$
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    You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:



$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.



I then tried to say that



$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$



and



$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!



edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.










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  • Show that, for all $n > 1: frac{1}{n + 1} < log(1 + frac1n) < frac1n.$ [duplicate]

    4 answers




I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:



$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.



I then tried to say that



$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$



and



$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$



But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!



edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.





This question already has an answer here:




  • Show that, for all $n > 1: frac{1}{n + 1} < log(1 + frac1n) < frac1n.$ [duplicate]

    4 answers








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marked as duplicate by StubbornAtom, RRL, A. Pongrácz, callculus, Shubham Johri Jan 7 at 12:37


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marked as duplicate by StubbornAtom, RRL, A. Pongrácz, callculus, Shubham Johri Jan 7 at 12:37


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    The right hand side should be $1/n$
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    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 7 at 4:15






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    You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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    – hardmath
    Jan 7 at 4:27














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    $begingroup$
    The right hand side should be $1/n$
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    – Shubham Johri
    Jan 7 at 4:15






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    You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
    $endgroup$
    – hardmath
    Jan 7 at 4:27








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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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– hardmath
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$






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    I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that



$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.






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    For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$






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      I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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      Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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    For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$






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      I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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      @user494405 See the edit.
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      Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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    For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$






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    For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$







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      I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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      Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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      I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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      @user494405 See the edit.
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    Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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    By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that



    $int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.






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      By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that



      $int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.






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        By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that



        $int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.






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        By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that



        $int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.







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