How do you prove that $frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$? [duplicate]
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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:
$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.
I then tried to say that
$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$
and
$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!
edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.
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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:
$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.
I then tried to say that
$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$
and
$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!
edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.
integration
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marked as duplicate by StubbornAtom, RRL, A. Pongrácz, callculus, Shubham Johri Jan 7 at 12:37
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:
$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.
I then tried to say that
$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$
and
$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!
edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.
integration
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This question already has an answer here:
Show that, for all $n > 1: frac{1}{n + 1} < log(1 + frac1n) < frac1n.$ [duplicate]
4 answers
I tried to simplify things to see what I could do:
$frac{1}{n+1}leint_{n}^{n+1}frac{1}{x}dxlefrac{1}{n}$
$impliesfrac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
However, after this, I'm in a bit of a rut.
I then tried to say that
$frac{1}{n+1}le ln(n+1)-ln(n)$
and
$ln(n+1)-ln(n)lefrac{1}{n}$
But that didn't really help either. I'm assuming I'm going the wrong direction; how should I go about this problem? Thanks!
edit: I should add that this is to be proved only for $n ge 1$.
This question already has an answer here:
Show that, for all $n > 1: frac{1}{n + 1} < log(1 + frac1n) < frac1n.$ [duplicate]
4 answers
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marked as duplicate by StubbornAtom, RRL, A. Pongrácz, callculus, Shubham Johri Jan 7 at 12:37
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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– hardmath
Jan 7 at 4:27
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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– hardmath
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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@user494405 See the edit.
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that
$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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– user494405
Jan 7 at 4:12
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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– user494405
Jan 7 at 4:12
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$
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For $xin[n,n+1],ninBbb N$, we have $$frac1{n+1}lefrac1xlefrac1n\int_n^{n+1}frac1{n+1}dxleint_n^{n+1}frac1xdxleint_n^{n+1}frac1ndx$$
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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Jan 7 at 4:21
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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I'm sorry, could you elaborate?
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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@user494405 See the edit.
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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Oh wow, that was so simple. Thanks for the help!
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that
$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that
$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that
$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.
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By the mean value theorem for integrals, there is $a in [n,n+1]$ such that
$int_n^{n+1}frac1xdx=frac{1}{a}(n+1-n)=frac{1}{a}$.
answered Jan 7 at 6:10
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The right hand side should be $1/n$
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– Shubham Johri
Jan 7 at 4:15
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You were overthinking it. The function $1/x$ is decreasing on interval $[n,n+1]$ of length one.
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– hardmath
Jan 7 at 4:27