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In set theory, a tree is usually defined as a partial order such that the set of elements below any given one is well-ordered. I am interested in the class of partial orders $P$ such that for every $p in P$, the set of $q leq p$ is just linearly ordered. Does this have a name?










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    Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
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    Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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In set theory, a tree is usually defined as a partial order such that the set of elements below any given one is well-ordered. I am interested in the class of partial orders $P$ such that for every $p in P$, the set of $q leq p$ is just linearly ordered. Does this have a name?










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    Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
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    Thanks @NotMike! It's nice to see this coming from outside of pure set theory. Feel free to put this as an answer.
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    Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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In set theory, a tree is usually defined as a partial order such that the set of elements below any given one is well-ordered. I am interested in the class of partial orders $P$ such that for every $p in P$, the set of $q leq p$ is just linearly ordered. Does this have a name?










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In set theory, a tree is usually defined as a partial order such that the set of elements below any given one is well-ordered. I am interested in the class of partial orders $P$ such that for every $p in P$, the set of $q leq p$ is just linearly ordered. Does this have a name?







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    Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
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    – Not Mike
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    Thanks @NotMike! It's nice to see this coming from outside of pure set theory. Feel free to put this as an answer.
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    – Monroe Eskew
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    Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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    Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
    $endgroup$
    – Not Mike
    Jan 18 at 17:18












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    Thanks @NotMike! It's nice to see this coming from outside of pure set theory. Feel free to put this as an answer.
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    – Monroe Eskew
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    Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
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Prefix orders seem to be relevant, if for no other reason than they appear to fit the required definitional niche. See en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefix_order
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Thanks @NotMike! It's nice to see this coming from outside of pure set theory. Feel free to put this as an answer.
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Thanks @NotMike! It's nice to see this coming from outside of pure set theory. Feel free to put this as an answer.
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Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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Adeleke and Neumann have a Memoir of the AMS 'Relations related to betweenness' which considers various structures along these lines. In particular, a partially ordered set satisfying the property above which is also assumed to be connected (every pair of elements has a common lower bound) is called a semilinearly ordered set. I don't know if they have a name for such objects if they're not connected.
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They are also called trees.



In that terminology, trees of your first kind are known as the well-founded trees, since they are trees where the tree order is well-founded (and well-founded linear orders are the same as well-orders).



I think that the situation is that because set theorists are mainly interested in the well-founded case, the terminology evolved to drop the adjective from well-founded trees.



There are many competing definitions of tree in mathematics, not all equivalent. For graph-theorists, for example, a tree is a certain kind of cycle-free graph.






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    For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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    But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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    @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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After a little bit of searching, the notion of prefix order seems to be relevant; if for no other reason than that it appears to fit the required definitional niche.



(Also, it seemed worth pointing out the notion of prefix-order is precisely that of a "first-order tree".)






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    They are also called trees.



    In that terminology, trees of your first kind are known as the well-founded trees, since they are trees where the tree order is well-founded (and well-founded linear orders are the same as well-orders).



    I think that the situation is that because set theorists are mainly interested in the well-founded case, the terminology evolved to drop the adjective from well-founded trees.



    There are many competing definitions of tree in mathematics, not all equivalent. For graph-theorists, for example, a tree is a certain kind of cycle-free graph.






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      This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
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      I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
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      For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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      But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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      @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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    They are also called trees.



    In that terminology, trees of your first kind are known as the well-founded trees, since they are trees where the tree order is well-founded (and well-founded linear orders are the same as well-orders).



    I think that the situation is that because set theorists are mainly interested in the well-founded case, the terminology evolved to drop the adjective from well-founded trees.



    There are many competing definitions of tree in mathematics, not all equivalent. For graph-theorists, for example, a tree is a certain kind of cycle-free graph.






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      This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
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      I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
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      – Joel David Hamkins
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      For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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      But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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      @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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    They are also called trees.



    In that terminology, trees of your first kind are known as the well-founded trees, since they are trees where the tree order is well-founded (and well-founded linear orders are the same as well-orders).



    I think that the situation is that because set theorists are mainly interested in the well-founded case, the terminology evolved to drop the adjective from well-founded trees.



    There are many competing definitions of tree in mathematics, not all equivalent. For graph-theorists, for example, a tree is a certain kind of cycle-free graph.






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    They are also called trees.



    In that terminology, trees of your first kind are known as the well-founded trees, since they are trees where the tree order is well-founded (and well-founded linear orders are the same as well-orders).



    I think that the situation is that because set theorists are mainly interested in the well-founded case, the terminology evolved to drop the adjective from well-founded trees.



    There are many competing definitions of tree in mathematics, not all equivalent. For graph-theorists, for example, a tree is a certain kind of cycle-free graph.







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      This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
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      I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
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      – Joel David Hamkins
      Jan 18 at 17:58






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      For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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      But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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      @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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      – Monroe Eskew
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    • 1




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      This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
      $endgroup$
      – Monroe Eskew
      Jan 18 at 15:32






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      I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
      $endgroup$
      – Joel David Hamkins
      Jan 18 at 17:58






    • 2




      $begingroup$
      For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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      But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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    • 2




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      @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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      – Monroe Eskew
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    This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
    $endgroup$
    – Monroe Eskew
    Jan 18 at 15:32




    $begingroup$
    This is also what I thought off the top of my head, but Jech, Kunen, and Kanamori all put well-foundedness into the definition of a tree. Do you know of a reference the defines trees as the more general class?
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    – Monroe Eskew
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    I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
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    – Joel David Hamkins
    Jan 18 at 17:58




    $begingroup$
    I guess the complication also is that "well-founded tree" now means something else in set theory, where the tree is growing downward and has no infinite branches.
    $endgroup$
    – Joel David Hamkins
    Jan 18 at 17:58




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    For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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    – Kameryn Williams
    Jan 18 at 22:27






    $begingroup$
    For one reference: Keisler uses the linear order definition in his article "Models with tree structures". Full citation: H. Jerome Keisler. “Models with tree structures”. In: Proceedings of the Tarski Symposium (Proc. Sympos. Pure Math., Vol. XXV, Univ. California, Berkeley, Calif., 1971) . Amer. Math. Soc., Providence, R.I., 1974, pp. 331–348.
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    But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
    $endgroup$
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    Jan 23 at 5:58






    $begingroup$
    But set-theoreticians, who use the word "tree" to mean well-founded tree, must occasionally have to refer to the more general trees. What do they call them? If I use "tree" to mean a poset in which the predecessors of any element are well-ordered, then what should I call a poset in which the predecessors of any element are linearly ordered? I have some vague recollection of hearing them called "pseudotrees" or something like that.
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    @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
    $endgroup$
    – Monroe Eskew
    Jan 24 at 9:36




    $begingroup$
    @bof A colleague pointed me to several set-theory papers by Koppelberg-Monk, Bekkali, and Alos-Ferrer and Ritzberger, where the term pseudotree is used for exactly this kind of poset.
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    – Monroe Eskew
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    After a little bit of searching, the notion of prefix order seems to be relevant; if for no other reason than that it appears to fit the required definitional niche.



    (Also, it seemed worth pointing out the notion of prefix-order is precisely that of a "first-order tree".)






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      After a little bit of searching, the notion of prefix order seems to be relevant; if for no other reason than that it appears to fit the required definitional niche.



      (Also, it seemed worth pointing out the notion of prefix-order is precisely that of a "first-order tree".)






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        After a little bit of searching, the notion of prefix order seems to be relevant; if for no other reason than that it appears to fit the required definitional niche.



        (Also, it seemed worth pointing out the notion of prefix-order is precisely that of a "first-order tree".)






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