Compare two random variables and their probability with respect to same number












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Given random variables $X$, $Y$, if I know $Xgeq Y$, what can I say about
$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ where $ageq 0$.



What I Have Done



$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ could be evaluated with integral but since I do not know the pdf of $X$ and $Y$,this approach could not give me
any result.










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    I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
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    – user440191
    Jan 26 at 1:13


















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Problem



Given random variables $X$, $Y$, if I know $Xgeq Y$, what can I say about
$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ where $ageq 0$.



What I Have Done



$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ could be evaluated with integral but since I do not know the pdf of $X$ and $Y$,this approach could not give me
any result.










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  • $begingroup$
    I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
    $endgroup$
    – user440191
    Jan 26 at 1:13
















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$begingroup$


Problem



Given random variables $X$, $Y$, if I know $Xgeq Y$, what can I say about
$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ where $ageq 0$.



What I Have Done



$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ could be evaluated with integral but since I do not know the pdf of $X$ and $Y$,this approach could not give me
any result.










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Problem



Given random variables $X$, $Y$, if I know $Xgeq Y$, what can I say about
$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ where $ageq 0$.



What I Have Done



$Pr[Xgeq a]$ and $Pr[Ygeq a]$ could be evaluated with integral but since I do not know the pdf of $X$ and $Y$,this approach could not give me
any result.







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Mr.RobotMr.Robot

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  • $begingroup$
    I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
    $endgroup$
    – user440191
    Jan 26 at 1:13




















  • $begingroup$
    I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
    $endgroup$
    – user440191
    Jan 26 at 1:13


















$begingroup$
I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
$endgroup$
– user440191
Jan 26 at 1:13






$begingroup$
I think you can establish an inequality between the two probabilities. Note that the event $Ygeq a$ implies $X geq a$.
$endgroup$
– user440191
Jan 26 at 1:13












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Note that
$$
Ygeq aimplies Xgeq Ygeq a
$$

whence
$$
(Yge a)subseteq(Xgeq a)
$$

and so by monotonicicity of measure (namely, $Asubseteq Bimplies P(A)leq P(B)$) we have that
$$
P(Ygeq a)leq P(Xge a)
$$






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    Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
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    – Mr.Robot
    Jan 26 at 20:06










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    Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
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    – Foobaz John
    Jan 26 at 21:46











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$begingroup$

Note that
$$
Ygeq aimplies Xgeq Ygeq a
$$

whence
$$
(Yge a)subseteq(Xgeq a)
$$

and so by monotonicicity of measure (namely, $Asubseteq Bimplies P(A)leq P(B)$) we have that
$$
P(Ygeq a)leq P(Xge a)
$$






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    Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.Robot
    Jan 26 at 20:06










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    Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Foobaz John
    Jan 26 at 21:46
















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$begingroup$

Note that
$$
Ygeq aimplies Xgeq Ygeq a
$$

whence
$$
(Yge a)subseteq(Xgeq a)
$$

and so by monotonicicity of measure (namely, $Asubseteq Bimplies P(A)leq P(B)$) we have that
$$
P(Ygeq a)leq P(Xge a)
$$






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  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.Robot
    Jan 26 at 20:06










  • $begingroup$
    Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Foobaz John
    Jan 26 at 21:46














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$begingroup$

Note that
$$
Ygeq aimplies Xgeq Ygeq a
$$

whence
$$
(Yge a)subseteq(Xgeq a)
$$

and so by monotonicicity of measure (namely, $Asubseteq Bimplies P(A)leq P(B)$) we have that
$$
P(Ygeq a)leq P(Xge a)
$$






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Note that
$$
Ygeq aimplies Xgeq Ygeq a
$$

whence
$$
(Yge a)subseteq(Xgeq a)
$$

and so by monotonicicity of measure (namely, $Asubseteq Bimplies P(A)leq P(B)$) we have that
$$
P(Ygeq a)leq P(Xge a)
$$







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answered Jan 26 at 1:16









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  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.Robot
    Jan 26 at 20:06










  • $begingroup$
    Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Foobaz John
    Jan 26 at 21:46


















  • $begingroup$
    Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
    $endgroup$
    – Mr.Robot
    Jan 26 at 20:06










  • $begingroup$
    Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
    $endgroup$
    – Foobaz John
    Jan 26 at 21:46
















$begingroup$
Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
$endgroup$
– Mr.Robot
Jan 26 at 20:06




$begingroup$
Thank you for your help! But does it generally hold that if $ARightarrow B$, then $Asubseteq B$ and therefore $Pr[A]leq Pr[B]$.
$endgroup$
– Mr.Robot
Jan 26 at 20:06












$begingroup$
Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
$endgroup$
– Foobaz John
Jan 26 at 21:46




$begingroup$
Yes. If $Asubseteq B$, then since $B=Acup (Bsetminus A)$ (which is a disjoint union), it follows that $P(B)=P(A)+P(Bsetminus A)geq P(A)$.
$endgroup$
– Foobaz John
Jan 26 at 21:46


















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