Recursive Relation $T(n)=T(n-1)+1$












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I have wrote a recursive code of the type:



function(n){
if n==1:
return
else{
do something
function(n-1)
}


Now I am trying to analyze the complexity



I came to $T(n)=T(n-1)+1$ but how do I solve this kind of recursive relation? master theorem can not be used, I vaguely remember something like:



$$T(n)=T(n-1)+1$$
$$T(n-1)=T(n-2)+1$$
$$T(n-2)=T(n-3)+1$$



So it is of the kind
$$T(n)=T(n-k)+1$$
and then we set $m=n-k$



But I do not remember how to proceed.










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    It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
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    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:51










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    Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
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    – Rob Arthan
    Jan 31 at 21:06












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    @Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
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    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:01










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    You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
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    – Bernard
    Feb 1 at 10:41
















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$begingroup$


I have wrote a recursive code of the type:



function(n){
if n==1:
return
else{
do something
function(n-1)
}


Now I am trying to analyze the complexity



I came to $T(n)=T(n-1)+1$ but how do I solve this kind of recursive relation? master theorem can not be used, I vaguely remember something like:



$$T(n)=T(n-1)+1$$
$$T(n-1)=T(n-2)+1$$
$$T(n-2)=T(n-3)+1$$



So it is of the kind
$$T(n)=T(n-k)+1$$
and then we set $m=n-k$



But I do not remember how to proceed.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:51










  • $begingroup$
    Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
    $endgroup$
    – Rob Arthan
    Jan 31 at 21:06












  • $begingroup$
    @Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:01










  • $begingroup$
    You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Feb 1 at 10:41














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-2








-2





$begingroup$


I have wrote a recursive code of the type:



function(n){
if n==1:
return
else{
do something
function(n-1)
}


Now I am trying to analyze the complexity



I came to $T(n)=T(n-1)+1$ but how do I solve this kind of recursive relation? master theorem can not be used, I vaguely remember something like:



$$T(n)=T(n-1)+1$$
$$T(n-1)=T(n-2)+1$$
$$T(n-2)=T(n-3)+1$$



So it is of the kind
$$T(n)=T(n-k)+1$$
and then we set $m=n-k$



But I do not remember how to proceed.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I have wrote a recursive code of the type:



function(n){
if n==1:
return
else{
do something
function(n-1)
}


Now I am trying to analyze the complexity



I came to $T(n)=T(n-1)+1$ but how do I solve this kind of recursive relation? master theorem can not be used, I vaguely remember something like:



$$T(n)=T(n-1)+1$$
$$T(n-1)=T(n-2)+1$$
$$T(n-2)=T(n-3)+1$$



So it is of the kind
$$T(n)=T(n-k)+1$$
and then we set $m=n-k$



But I do not remember how to proceed.







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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:51










  • $begingroup$
    Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
    $endgroup$
    – Rob Arthan
    Jan 31 at 21:06












  • $begingroup$
    @Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:01










  • $begingroup$
    You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Feb 1 at 10:41














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:51










  • $begingroup$
    Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
    $endgroup$
    – Rob Arthan
    Jan 31 at 21:06












  • $begingroup$
    @Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:01










  • $begingroup$
    You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Feb 1 at 10:41








1




1




$begingroup$
It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Jan 31 at 20:51




$begingroup$
It should $T(n)=T(n-k)+k$. This is an arithmetic progression.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Jan 31 at 20:51












$begingroup$
Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
$endgroup$
– Rob Arthan
Jan 31 at 21:06






$begingroup$
Your analysis is only correct if the time complexity of "$mathtt{do ;something}$" is independent of $n$. If that is the case, then the sum of the arithmetic progression is easily found by thinking about counting on your fingers.
$endgroup$
– Rob Arthan
Jan 31 at 21:06














$begingroup$
@Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:01




$begingroup$
@Bernard yes that what I meant, the next step it substitution of $n-k$ or something like that, where can I read more about this subject?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:01












$begingroup$
You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Feb 1 at 10:41




$begingroup$
You can take a look at Wikipedia for instance.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Feb 1 at 10:41










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Note this
$$T(n) - T(0) = sum_{k=1}^n T(k) - T(k-1).$$






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    Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
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    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:02





















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By expanding the recursive equation, you can found $T(n) = Theta(n)$ (by induction).






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    If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:16








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    @gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
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    – OmG
    Feb 1 at 11:56










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    Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 13:28














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$begingroup$

Note this
$$T(n) - T(0) = sum_{k=1}^n T(k) - T(k-1).$$






share|cite|improve this answer









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  • $begingroup$
    Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:02


















2












$begingroup$

Note this
$$T(n) - T(0) = sum_{k=1}^n T(k) - T(k-1).$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:02
















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$begingroup$

Note this
$$T(n) - T(0) = sum_{k=1}^n T(k) - T(k-1).$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$



Note this
$$T(n) - T(0) = sum_{k=1}^n T(k) - T(k-1).$$







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answered Jan 31 at 20:51









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  • $begingroup$
    Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:02




















  • $begingroup$
    Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:02


















$begingroup$
Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:02






$begingroup$
Multiplying this by $frac{n}{2}$ will give use the sum of the arithmetic progression so $frac{n(T(n)-1)}{2}=sum_{k=1}^{n}frac{n(T(k)-T(k-1)}{2}$ we want to find an expression for $T(n)$ which is not recursive?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:02













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By expanding the recursive equation, you can found $T(n) = Theta(n)$ (by induction).






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:16








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
    $endgroup$
    – OmG
    Feb 1 at 11:56










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 13:28


















2












$begingroup$

By expanding the recursive equation, you can found $T(n) = Theta(n)$ (by induction).






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:16








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
    $endgroup$
    – OmG
    Feb 1 at 11:56










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 13:28
















2












2








2





$begingroup$

By expanding the recursive equation, you can found $T(n) = Theta(n)$ (by induction).






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$



By expanding the recursive equation, you can found $T(n) = Theta(n)$ (by induction).







share|cite|improve this answer












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answered Jan 31 at 20:53









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  • $begingroup$
    If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:16








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
    $endgroup$
    – OmG
    Feb 1 at 11:56










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 13:28




















  • $begingroup$
    If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 10:16








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
    $endgroup$
    – OmG
    Feb 1 at 11:56










  • $begingroup$
    Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
    $endgroup$
    – gbox
    Feb 1 at 13:28


















$begingroup$
If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:16






$begingroup$
If I look at $T(n)-T(n-1)=n$ and then summing it, I get $T(n)-1=frac{n(n+1)}{2}$ or $T(n)=frac{n(n+1)}{2}+1$ how is it $Theta (n)$?
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 10:16






1




1




$begingroup$
@gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
$endgroup$
– OmG
Feb 1 at 11:56




$begingroup$
@gbox Sorry, you are wrong. $T(n) - T(n-1) = 1$ by your definition.
$endgroup$
– OmG
Feb 1 at 11:56












$begingroup$
Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 13:28






$begingroup$
Sorry, you are correct so the sum of $sum T(n)-T(n-1)=T(n)-T(0)=n$
$endgroup$
– gbox
Feb 1 at 13:28




















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