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Using Euler's method, solve system of differential equations $Y'=AY$ if $$A= begin{bmatrix}
8 & -1 & 5 \
-2 & 3 & 1 \
4 & -1 & -1 \
end{bmatrix}$$



$$-$$ I've been reading about this method, and I saw that all examples with this metho have some time step $h$ or initial value $y(t_0)=y_0$, but here I don't have anything. Can I solve this like Nonhomogeneous constant-coefficient linear differential equations or to solve this with eigenvalues(I heard about this way, but I don't know how to do that)..










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    As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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Using Euler's method, solve system of differential equations $Y'=AY$ if $$A= begin{bmatrix}
8 & -1 & 5 \
-2 & 3 & 1 \
4 & -1 & -1 \
end{bmatrix}$$



$$-$$ I've been reading about this method, and I saw that all examples with this metho have some time step $h$ or initial value $y(t_0)=y_0$, but here I don't have anything. Can I solve this like Nonhomogeneous constant-coefficient linear differential equations or to solve this with eigenvalues(I heard about this way, but I don't know how to do that)..










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    As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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    Jan 31 at 21:35
















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Using Euler's method, solve system of differential equations $Y'=AY$ if $$A= begin{bmatrix}
8 & -1 & 5 \
-2 & 3 & 1 \
4 & -1 & -1 \
end{bmatrix}$$



$$-$$ I've been reading about this method, and I saw that all examples with this metho have some time step $h$ or initial value $y(t_0)=y_0$, but here I don't have anything. Can I solve this like Nonhomogeneous constant-coefficient linear differential equations or to solve this with eigenvalues(I heard about this way, but I don't know how to do that)..










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Using Euler's method, solve system of differential equations $Y'=AY$ if $$A= begin{bmatrix}
8 & -1 & 5 \
-2 & 3 & 1 \
4 & -1 & -1 \
end{bmatrix}$$



$$-$$ I've been reading about this method, and I saw that all examples with this metho have some time step $h$ or initial value $y(t_0)=y_0$, but here I don't have anything. Can I solve this like Nonhomogeneous constant-coefficient linear differential equations or to solve this with eigenvalues(I heard about this way, but I don't know how to do that)..







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    $begingroup$
    As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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    Jan 31 at 21:35
















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    $begingroup$
    As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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    – LutzL
    Jan 31 at 21:35










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$begingroup$
As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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Jan 31 at 21:35






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As you observed, the task description is incomplete without an initial value. One could take as canonical place-holder the identity matrix $Y_0=I$. This then would approximate the fundamental (matrix-valued) solution.
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While you cannot solve it without an initial value, at least you can write down the recurrence.



Let $SJS^{-1}$ be a diagonalization of $A$.
Given an initial condition $y_{0}=Y(t_{0})$ and a step size $h$, Euler's method defines the sequence of iterates $y_{1},y_{2},ldots$ by
$$
y_{n+1}=left(I+hAright)y_{n}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
$$

Equivalently,
$$
y_{n}=left(I+hAright)^{n}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
$$

Using the fact that
$$
I+hA=SS^{-1}+hSJS^{-1}=Sleft(I+hJright)S^{-1}
$$

we get
$$
y_{n}=Sleft(I+hJright)^{n}S^{-1}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
$$

As for the actual values of $S$ and $J$, according to Wolfram Alpha
they are
$$
Sapproxbegin{pmatrix}-0.502512 & -5.7963 & 2.63214\
-0.354525 & -26.7138 & -0.598336\
1 & 1 & 1
end{pmatrix}
$$

and
$$I+hJapproxbegin{pmatrix}1-2.65552h\
& 1+2.52861h\
& & 1+10.1269h
end{pmatrix}.
$$






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    While you cannot solve it without an initial value, at least you can write down the recurrence.



    Let $SJS^{-1}$ be a diagonalization of $A$.
    Given an initial condition $y_{0}=Y(t_{0})$ and a step size $h$, Euler's method defines the sequence of iterates $y_{1},y_{2},ldots$ by
    $$
    y_{n+1}=left(I+hAright)y_{n}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
    $$

    Equivalently,
    $$
    y_{n}=left(I+hAright)^{n}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
    $$

    Using the fact that
    $$
    I+hA=SS^{-1}+hSJS^{-1}=Sleft(I+hJright)S^{-1}
    $$

    we get
    $$
    y_{n}=Sleft(I+hJright)^{n}S^{-1}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
    $$

    As for the actual values of $S$ and $J$, according to Wolfram Alpha
    they are
    $$
    Sapproxbegin{pmatrix}-0.502512 & -5.7963 & 2.63214\
    -0.354525 & -26.7138 & -0.598336\
    1 & 1 & 1
    end{pmatrix}
    $$

    and
    $$I+hJapproxbegin{pmatrix}1-2.65552h\
    & 1+2.52861h\
    & & 1+10.1269h
    end{pmatrix}.
    $$






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      While you cannot solve it without an initial value, at least you can write down the recurrence.



      Let $SJS^{-1}$ be a diagonalization of $A$.
      Given an initial condition $y_{0}=Y(t_{0})$ and a step size $h$, Euler's method defines the sequence of iterates $y_{1},y_{2},ldots$ by
      $$
      y_{n+1}=left(I+hAright)y_{n}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
      $$

      Equivalently,
      $$
      y_{n}=left(I+hAright)^{n}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
      $$

      Using the fact that
      $$
      I+hA=SS^{-1}+hSJS^{-1}=Sleft(I+hJright)S^{-1}
      $$

      we get
      $$
      y_{n}=Sleft(I+hJright)^{n}S^{-1}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
      $$

      As for the actual values of $S$ and $J$, according to Wolfram Alpha
      they are
      $$
      Sapproxbegin{pmatrix}-0.502512 & -5.7963 & 2.63214\
      -0.354525 & -26.7138 & -0.598336\
      1 & 1 & 1
      end{pmatrix}
      $$

      and
      $$I+hJapproxbegin{pmatrix}1-2.65552h\
      & 1+2.52861h\
      & & 1+10.1269h
      end{pmatrix}.
      $$






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        While you cannot solve it without an initial value, at least you can write down the recurrence.



        Let $SJS^{-1}$ be a diagonalization of $A$.
        Given an initial condition $y_{0}=Y(t_{0})$ and a step size $h$, Euler's method defines the sequence of iterates $y_{1},y_{2},ldots$ by
        $$
        y_{n+1}=left(I+hAright)y_{n}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        Equivalently,
        $$
        y_{n}=left(I+hAright)^{n}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        Using the fact that
        $$
        I+hA=SS^{-1}+hSJS^{-1}=Sleft(I+hJright)S^{-1}
        $$

        we get
        $$
        y_{n}=Sleft(I+hJright)^{n}S^{-1}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        As for the actual values of $S$ and $J$, according to Wolfram Alpha
        they are
        $$
        Sapproxbegin{pmatrix}-0.502512 & -5.7963 & 2.63214\
        -0.354525 & -26.7138 & -0.598336\
        1 & 1 & 1
        end{pmatrix}
        $$

        and
        $$I+hJapproxbegin{pmatrix}1-2.65552h\
        & 1+2.52861h\
        & & 1+10.1269h
        end{pmatrix}.
        $$






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        While you cannot solve it without an initial value, at least you can write down the recurrence.



        Let $SJS^{-1}$ be a diagonalization of $A$.
        Given an initial condition $y_{0}=Y(t_{0})$ and a step size $h$, Euler's method defines the sequence of iterates $y_{1},y_{2},ldots$ by
        $$
        y_{n+1}=left(I+hAright)y_{n}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        Equivalently,
        $$
        y_{n}=left(I+hAright)^{n}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        Using the fact that
        $$
        I+hA=SS^{-1}+hSJS^{-1}=Sleft(I+hJright)S^{-1}
        $$

        we get
        $$
        y_{n}=Sleft(I+hJright)^{n}S^{-1}y_{0}qquadtext{for }ngeq0.
        $$

        As for the actual values of $S$ and $J$, according to Wolfram Alpha
        they are
        $$
        Sapproxbegin{pmatrix}-0.502512 & -5.7963 & 2.63214\
        -0.354525 & -26.7138 & -0.598336\
        1 & 1 & 1
        end{pmatrix}
        $$

        and
        $$I+hJapproxbegin{pmatrix}1-2.65552h\
        & 1+2.52861h\
        & & 1+10.1269h
        end{pmatrix}.
        $$







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