Show that $zinmathbb{C}$ satisfying $argBig(dfrac{z-1}{z+1}Big)=dfrac{pi}{4}$ is a circle












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Show that the complex number $z$ satisfying the condition $argBig(dfrac{z-1}{z+1}Big)=dfrac{pi}{4}$ is a circle




I can prove it by expressing $z=x+iy$,
$$
argBig(frac{x-1+iy}{x+1+iy}Big)=arg(x-1+iy)-arg(x+1+iy)=frac{pi}{4}\
1=frac{frac{y}{x-1}-frac{y}{x+1}}{1+frac{y^2}{x^2-1}}=frac{xy+y-xy+y}{x^2-1+y^2}implies x^2-1+y^2=2y\implies x^2+y^2-2y-1=0
$$

But can I show that using geometry and the concept of Apollonius circle ?










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    Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
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Show that the complex number $z$ satisfying the condition $argBig(dfrac{z-1}{z+1}Big)=dfrac{pi}{4}$ is a circle




I can prove it by expressing $z=x+iy$,
$$
argBig(frac{x-1+iy}{x+1+iy}Big)=arg(x-1+iy)-arg(x+1+iy)=frac{pi}{4}\
1=frac{frac{y}{x-1}-frac{y}{x+1}}{1+frac{y^2}{x^2-1}}=frac{xy+y-xy+y}{x^2-1+y^2}implies x^2-1+y^2=2y\implies x^2+y^2-2y-1=0
$$

But can I show that using geometry and the concept of Apollonius circle ?










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    Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
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Show that the complex number $z$ satisfying the condition $argBig(dfrac{z-1}{z+1}Big)=dfrac{pi}{4}$ is a circle




I can prove it by expressing $z=x+iy$,
$$
argBig(frac{x-1+iy}{x+1+iy}Big)=arg(x-1+iy)-arg(x+1+iy)=frac{pi}{4}\
1=frac{frac{y}{x-1}-frac{y}{x+1}}{1+frac{y^2}{x^2-1}}=frac{xy+y-xy+y}{x^2-1+y^2}implies x^2-1+y^2=2y\implies x^2+y^2-2y-1=0
$$

But can I show that using geometry and the concept of Apollonius circle ?










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Show that the complex number $z$ satisfying the condition $argBig(dfrac{z-1}{z+1}Big)=dfrac{pi}{4}$ is a circle




I can prove it by expressing $z=x+iy$,
$$
argBig(frac{x-1+iy}{x+1+iy}Big)=arg(x-1+iy)-arg(x+1+iy)=frac{pi}{4}\
1=frac{frac{y}{x-1}-frac{y}{x+1}}{1+frac{y^2}{x^2-1}}=frac{xy+y-xy+y}{x^2-1+y^2}implies x^2-1+y^2=2y\implies x^2+y^2-2y-1=0
$$

But can I show that using geometry and the concept of Apollonius circle ?







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    Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
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    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:56










  • $begingroup$
    Here is a related link.....
    $endgroup$
    – Eleven-Eleven
    Jan 31 at 21:02


















  • $begingroup$
    Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Jan 31 at 20:56










  • $begingroup$
    Here is a related link.....
    $endgroup$
    – Eleven-Eleven
    Jan 31 at 21:02
















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Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
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– Bernard
Jan 31 at 20:56




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Just a remark: as far as I remember from middle-school geometry, the answer is only a circular arc.
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– Bernard
Jan 31 at 20:56












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Here is a related link.....
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– Eleven-Eleven
Jan 31 at 21:02




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Here is a related link.....
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${rm arg}left(frac{z-1}{z+1}right)$ is a measure of the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$, where $A$ has affix $-1$ and $B$ has affix $1$. Find one point $M_0$ verifying this equation which is not $A$ or $B$. The circumcircle of triangle $M_0AB$, excluding the arc between $A$ and $B$, is the solution, because if $Omega$ is its center, for every $M$ on this circle, the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$ is half the angle between $overrightarrow{Omega A}$ and $overrightarrow{Omega B}$, which is $fracpi2$.






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    Let $M(z), A(-1)$ and $B(1)$.
    $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [pi]$ is a circle $Gamma$ passing through $A$ and $B$ except those 2 points.
    How to get this circle: let $Delta$ the perpendicular bisector of $[AB]$, and choose $T$ a point such that $(overrightarrow{AB},overrightarrow{AT})=frac{pi}{4}$, define $Delta’$ as the line perpendicular to $(AT)$ at $A$ and finally $Omega=DeltabigcapDelta’$. $Gamma$ is the circle centered a $Omega$ passing through $A$ or/and $B$.
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    If $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [2pi]$ $Gamma$ is the arc located in the half plan delimited by $(AB)$ and not containing the point $T$. This method is still valid if we change $frac{pi}{4}$ by any value $theta$






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      ${rm arg}left(frac{z-1}{z+1}right)$ is a measure of the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$, where $A$ has affix $-1$ and $B$ has affix $1$. Find one point $M_0$ verifying this equation which is not $A$ or $B$. The circumcircle of triangle $M_0AB$, excluding the arc between $A$ and $B$, is the solution, because if $Omega$ is its center, for every $M$ on this circle, the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$ is half the angle between $overrightarrow{Omega A}$ and $overrightarrow{Omega B}$, which is $fracpi2$.






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          ${rm arg}left(frac{z-1}{z+1}right)$ is a measure of the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$, where $A$ has affix $-1$ and $B$ has affix $1$. Find one point $M_0$ verifying this equation which is not $A$ or $B$. The circumcircle of triangle $M_0AB$, excluding the arc between $A$ and $B$, is the solution, because if $Omega$ is its center, for every $M$ on this circle, the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$ is half the angle between $overrightarrow{Omega A}$ and $overrightarrow{Omega B}$, which is $fracpi2$.






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          ${rm arg}left(frac{z-1}{z+1}right)$ is a measure of the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$, where $A$ has affix $-1$ and $B$ has affix $1$. Find one point $M_0$ verifying this equation which is not $A$ or $B$. The circumcircle of triangle $M_0AB$, excluding the arc between $A$ and $B$, is the solution, because if $Omega$ is its center, for every $M$ on this circle, the angle between $overrightarrow{AM}$ and $overrightarrow{BM}$ is half the angle between $overrightarrow{Omega A}$ and $overrightarrow{Omega B}$, which is $fracpi2$.







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              Let $M(z), A(-1)$ and $B(1)$.
              $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [pi]$ is a circle $Gamma$ passing through $A$ and $B$ except those 2 points.
              How to get this circle: let $Delta$ the perpendicular bisector of $[AB]$, and choose $T$ a point such that $(overrightarrow{AB},overrightarrow{AT})=frac{pi}{4}$, define $Delta’$ as the line perpendicular to $(AT)$ at $A$ and finally $Omega=DeltabigcapDelta’$. $Gamma$ is the circle centered a $Omega$ passing through $A$ or/and $B$.
              $\$
              If $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [2pi]$ $Gamma$ is the arc located in the half plan delimited by $(AB)$ and not containing the point $T$. This method is still valid if we change $frac{pi}{4}$ by any value $theta$






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                Let $M(z), A(-1)$ and $B(1)$.
                $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [pi]$ is a circle $Gamma$ passing through $A$ and $B$ except those 2 points.
                How to get this circle: let $Delta$ the perpendicular bisector of $[AB]$, and choose $T$ a point such that $(overrightarrow{AB},overrightarrow{AT})=frac{pi}{4}$, define $Delta’$ as the line perpendicular to $(AT)$ at $A$ and finally $Omega=DeltabigcapDelta’$. $Gamma$ is the circle centered a $Omega$ passing through $A$ or/and $B$.
                $\$
                If $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [2pi]$ $Gamma$ is the arc located in the half plan delimited by $(AB)$ and not containing the point $T$. This method is still valid if we change $frac{pi}{4}$ by any value $theta$






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                  Let $M(z), A(-1)$ and $B(1)$.
                  $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [pi]$ is a circle $Gamma$ passing through $A$ and $B$ except those 2 points.
                  How to get this circle: let $Delta$ the perpendicular bisector of $[AB]$, and choose $T$ a point such that $(overrightarrow{AB},overrightarrow{AT})=frac{pi}{4}$, define $Delta’$ as the line perpendicular to $(AT)$ at $A$ and finally $Omega=DeltabigcapDelta’$. $Gamma$ is the circle centered a $Omega$ passing through $A$ or/and $B$.
                  $\$
                  If $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [2pi]$ $Gamma$ is the arc located in the half plan delimited by $(AB)$ and not containing the point $T$. This method is still valid if we change $frac{pi}{4}$ by any value $theta$






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                  Let $M(z), A(-1)$ and $B(1)$.
                  $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [pi]$ is a circle $Gamma$ passing through $A$ and $B$ except those 2 points.
                  How to get this circle: let $Delta$ the perpendicular bisector of $[AB]$, and choose $T$ a point such that $(overrightarrow{AB},overrightarrow{AT})=frac{pi}{4}$, define $Delta’$ as the line perpendicular to $(AT)$ at $A$ and finally $Omega=DeltabigcapDelta’$. $Gamma$ is the circle centered a $Omega$ passing through $A$ or/and $B$.
                  $\$
                  If $arg(frac{z-1}{z+1})=(overrightarrow{MA},overrightarrow{MB})=frac{pi}{4} [2pi]$ $Gamma$ is the arc located in the half plan delimited by $(AB)$ and not containing the point $T$. This method is still valid if we change $frac{pi}{4}$ by any value $theta$







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