Isometry $f:Mmapsto M$ is surjective if $M$ is compact: proof by composing $f$ with itself












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Let $(M,d)$ be a compact space and $f:Mmapsto M$ an isometry. To prove that $f$ is surjective we take an arbitrary $ain M$ and consider $f^n:Mmapsto M$ the function obtained by composing $f$ $n$ times with itself.



Since $M$ is compact $(f^n(a))_{ninBbb N}$ has a subsequence $(f^{n_k}(a))_{kinBbb N}$ that converges in $(M,d)$. Let's call its limit $a^*in M$



We get $d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=d(f^{n_k}(a),f^{n_{k+1}}(a))xrightarrow[krightarrowinfty]{}d(a^*,a^*)=0$



Why does that prove that $ain f(M)$? (and since $a$ is arbitrary $Msubset f(M)implies M=f(M))$










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    It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
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    @Song Why not an official answer?
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    @PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
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Let $(M,d)$ be a compact space and $f:Mmapsto M$ an isometry. To prove that $f$ is surjective we take an arbitrary $ain M$ and consider $f^n:Mmapsto M$ the function obtained by composing $f$ $n$ times with itself.



Since $M$ is compact $(f^n(a))_{ninBbb N}$ has a subsequence $(f^{n_k}(a))_{kinBbb N}$ that converges in $(M,d)$. Let's call its limit $a^*in M$



We get $d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=d(f^{n_k}(a),f^{n_{k+1}}(a))xrightarrow[krightarrowinfty]{}d(a^*,a^*)=0$



Why does that prove that $ain f(M)$? (and since $a$ is arbitrary $Msubset f(M)implies M=f(M))$










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    It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
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    – Song
    Jan 21 at 15:52










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    @Song Why not an official answer?
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    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 17:37










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    @PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
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    – Song
    Jan 21 at 17:53














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Let $(M,d)$ be a compact space and $f:Mmapsto M$ an isometry. To prove that $f$ is surjective we take an arbitrary $ain M$ and consider $f^n:Mmapsto M$ the function obtained by composing $f$ $n$ times with itself.



Since $M$ is compact $(f^n(a))_{ninBbb N}$ has a subsequence $(f^{n_k}(a))_{kinBbb N}$ that converges in $(M,d)$. Let's call its limit $a^*in M$



We get $d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=d(f^{n_k}(a),f^{n_{k+1}}(a))xrightarrow[krightarrowinfty]{}d(a^*,a^*)=0$



Why does that prove that $ain f(M)$? (and since $a$ is arbitrary $Msubset f(M)implies M=f(M))$










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Let $(M,d)$ be a compact space and $f:Mmapsto M$ an isometry. To prove that $f$ is surjective we take an arbitrary $ain M$ and consider $f^n:Mmapsto M$ the function obtained by composing $f$ $n$ times with itself.



Since $M$ is compact $(f^n(a))_{ninBbb N}$ has a subsequence $(f^{n_k}(a))_{kinBbb N}$ that converges in $(M,d)$. Let's call its limit $a^*in M$



We get $d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=d(f^{n_k}(a),f^{n_{k+1}}(a))xrightarrow[krightarrowinfty]{}d(a^*,a^*)=0$



Why does that prove that $ain f(M)$? (and since $a$ is arbitrary $Msubset f(M)implies M=f(M))$







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    $begingroup$
    It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
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    – Song
    Jan 21 at 15:52










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    @Song Why not an official answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 17:37










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    @PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
    $endgroup$
    – Song
    Jan 21 at 17:53














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
    $endgroup$
    – Song
    Jan 21 at 15:52










  • $begingroup$
    @Song Why not an official answer?
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Jan 21 at 17:37










  • $begingroup$
    @PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
    $endgroup$
    – Song
    Jan 21 at 17:53








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$begingroup$
It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
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– Song
Jan 21 at 15:52




$begingroup$
It shows $a=limlimits_{ktoinfty}f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a).$ Note that $f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)$ and $f(M)$ is closed.
$endgroup$
– Song
Jan 21 at 15:52












$begingroup$
@Song Why not an official answer?
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Jan 21 at 17:37




$begingroup$
@Song Why not an official answer?
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Jan 21 at 17:37












$begingroup$
@PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
$endgroup$
– Song
Jan 21 at 17:53




$begingroup$
@PaulFrost I saw someone had already answered it, but he/she deleted his/her answer now. Thank you for suggestion :)
$endgroup$
– Song
Jan 21 at 17:53










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The argument shows $$lim_{ktoinfty}d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=0,$$ i.e. $limlimits_{ktoinfty} f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a) =a$. Note that since $n_{k+1}-n_kge 1$, $$
f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)
$$
and $f(M)$ is closed (as a continuous image of the compact set $M$). This shows
$$
ain f(M)
$$
as desired.






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    The argument shows $$lim_{ktoinfty}d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=0,$$ i.e. $limlimits_{ktoinfty} f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a) =a$. Note that since $n_{k+1}-n_kge 1$, $$
    f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)
    $$
    and $f(M)$ is closed (as a continuous image of the compact set $M$). This shows
    $$
    ain f(M)
    $$
    as desired.






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      The argument shows $$lim_{ktoinfty}d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=0,$$ i.e. $limlimits_{ktoinfty} f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a) =a$. Note that since $n_{k+1}-n_kge 1$, $$
      f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)
      $$
      and $f(M)$ is closed (as a continuous image of the compact set $M$). This shows
      $$
      ain f(M)
      $$
      as desired.






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        The argument shows $$lim_{ktoinfty}d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=0,$$ i.e. $limlimits_{ktoinfty} f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a) =a$. Note that since $n_{k+1}-n_kge 1$, $$
        f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)
        $$
        and $f(M)$ is closed (as a continuous image of the compact set $M$). This shows
        $$
        ain f(M)
        $$
        as desired.






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        The argument shows $$lim_{ktoinfty}d(a,f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a))=0,$$ i.e. $limlimits_{ktoinfty} f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a) =a$. Note that since $n_{k+1}-n_kge 1$, $$
        f^{n_{k+1}-n_k}(a)in f(M)
        $$
        and $f(M)$ is closed (as a continuous image of the compact set $M$). This shows
        $$
        ain f(M)
        $$
        as desired.







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