Trick to factor: $n^3 + 6n^2 + 9n + 4$












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Is there any way to tell if



$$n^3 + 6n^2 + 9n + 4$$



has a factored (condensed) form, and, if so, what that factored form is? If the answer is yes to both, may one explain the more general principle?










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Is there any way to tell if



$$n^3 + 6n^2 + 9n + 4$$



has a factored (condensed) form, and, if so, what that factored form is? If the answer is yes to both, may one explain the more general principle?










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    You can't simplyfie it, you can factor it.
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Is there any way to tell if



$$n^3 + 6n^2 + 9n + 4$$



has a factored (condensed) form, and, if so, what that factored form is? If the answer is yes to both, may one explain the more general principle?










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Is there any way to tell if



$$n^3 + 6n^2 + 9n + 4$$



has a factored (condensed) form, and, if so, what that factored form is? If the answer is yes to both, may one explain the more general principle?







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    Hint: search for rational roots.
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    $begingroup$
    You can't simplyfie it, you can factor it.
    $endgroup$
    – greedoid
    Jan 21 at 19:48














  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Hint: search for rational roots.
    $endgroup$
    – lulu
    Jan 21 at 19:48






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    $begingroup$
    You can't simplyfie it, you can factor it.
    $endgroup$
    – greedoid
    Jan 21 at 19:48








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Hint: search for rational roots.
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Hint: search for rational roots.
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You can't simplyfie it, you can factor it.
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Notice that, for $f(n)=an^3+bn^2+cn^1+dn^0$, we have
$$f(-1)=a-b+c-d=(a+c)-(b+d)$$



In other words, if the sum of the even co-efficients is equal to the sum of the odd co-efficients, $(x+1)$ can be taken out. Here, this holds



Then we have:



$$(n+1)(pn^2+qn+r)=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
Expanding out the LHS, we get:
$$pn^3+(p+q)n^2+(q+r)n+r=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
Can you see that $p=1, q=5, r=4$ by matching terms?



So we have:



$$n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)(n^2+5n+4)$$



Factorise the second bracket and you're done.






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$$ 1+9 = 10 $$
$$ 6+4 = 10 $$
Either $1$ or $-1$ is a root. I'm betting on $-1$






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    Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
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Let's factor it!



$$begin{align*}n^3+6n^2+9n+4 & =n^3+6n^2+8n+n+4\ & =n(n^2+6n+8)+n+4\ & =n(n+4)(n+2)+n+4\ & =(n+4)(n^2+2n+1)\ & =(n+1)^2(n+4)end{align*}$$






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    $$ n^3+6n^2+9n+4 = (n^3+1)+(6n^2+6n)+(3n+3)$$
    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1)+6n(n+1)+3(n+1)=$$



    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1+6n+3)$$
    $$ = (n+1)(n^2+5n+4) =$$ $$= (n+1)^2(n+4)$$






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      The general "principle" is called Polynomial factorization. We have
      $$
      n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)^2(n+4).
      $$

      There are many interesting algorithms. In this particular example, it is enough to do the rational root test. It immediately gives that a rational root must be of the form $pm 1,pm 4$, and then you just try. For a more demanding example, then, try to factorize
      $$
      n^9 + 3n^7 + 3n^6 + 3n^5 + 6n^4 + 4n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1.
      $$

      The result is very short and nice.






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        Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
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        @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
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      By inspection, $1+9=6+4$ so that $-1$ is a root. Now by long division,



      $$frac{n^3+6n^2+9n+4}{n+1}=n^2+5n+4$$ and you can use the quadratic formula.



      Or by inspection, $-1$ is again a root and



      $$frac{n^2+5n+1}{n+1}=n+4.$$






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        Notice that, for $f(n)=an^3+bn^2+cn^1+dn^0$, we have
        $$f(-1)=a-b+c-d=(a+c)-(b+d)$$



        In other words, if the sum of the even co-efficients is equal to the sum of the odd co-efficients, $(x+1)$ can be taken out. Here, this holds



        Then we have:



        $$(n+1)(pn^2+qn+r)=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Expanding out the LHS, we get:
        $$pn^3+(p+q)n^2+(q+r)n+r=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Can you see that $p=1, q=5, r=4$ by matching terms?



        So we have:



        $$n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)(n^2+5n+4)$$



        Factorise the second bracket and you're done.






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        Notice that, for $f(n)=an^3+bn^2+cn^1+dn^0$, we have
        $$f(-1)=a-b+c-d=(a+c)-(b+d)$$



        In other words, if the sum of the even co-efficients is equal to the sum of the odd co-efficients, $(x+1)$ can be taken out. Here, this holds



        Then we have:



        $$(n+1)(pn^2+qn+r)=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Expanding out the LHS, we get:
        $$pn^3+(p+q)n^2+(q+r)n+r=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Can you see that $p=1, q=5, r=4$ by matching terms?



        So we have:



        $$n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)(n^2+5n+4)$$



        Factorise the second bracket and you're done.






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        Notice that, for $f(n)=an^3+bn^2+cn^1+dn^0$, we have
        $$f(-1)=a-b+c-d=(a+c)-(b+d)$$



        In other words, if the sum of the even co-efficients is equal to the sum of the odd co-efficients, $(x+1)$ can be taken out. Here, this holds



        Then we have:



        $$(n+1)(pn^2+qn+r)=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Expanding out the LHS, we get:
        $$pn^3+(p+q)n^2+(q+r)n+r=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Can you see that $p=1, q=5, r=4$ by matching terms?



        So we have:



        $$n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)(n^2+5n+4)$$



        Factorise the second bracket and you're done.






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        Notice that, for $f(n)=an^3+bn^2+cn^1+dn^0$, we have
        $$f(-1)=a-b+c-d=(a+c)-(b+d)$$



        In other words, if the sum of the even co-efficients is equal to the sum of the odd co-efficients, $(x+1)$ can be taken out. Here, this holds



        Then we have:



        $$(n+1)(pn^2+qn+r)=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Expanding out the LHS, we get:
        $$pn^3+(p+q)n^2+(q+r)n+r=n^3+6n^2+9n+4$$
        Can you see that $p=1, q=5, r=4$ by matching terms?



        So we have:



        $$n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)(n^2+5n+4)$$



        Factorise the second bracket and you're done.







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          Long division is more efficient than indeterminate coefficients.
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        Long division is more efficient than indeterminate coefficients.
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        – Yves Daoust
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        $begingroup$
        Long division is more efficient than indeterminate coefficients.
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        $$ 1+9 = 10 $$
        $$ 6+4 = 10 $$
        Either $1$ or $-1$ is a root. I'm betting on $-1$






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          Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
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        $$ 1+9 = 10 $$
        $$ 6+4 = 10 $$
        Either $1$ or $-1$ is a root. I'm betting on $-1$






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          Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
          $endgroup$
          – Bill Dubuque
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        $$ 1+9 = 10 $$
        $$ 6+4 = 10 $$
        Either $1$ or $-1$ is a root. I'm betting on $-1$






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        $$ 1+9 = 10 $$
        $$ 6+4 = 10 $$
        Either $1$ or $-1$ is a root. I'm betting on $-1$







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          Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
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          Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
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          – Bill Dubuque
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        $begingroup$
        Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
        $endgroup$
        – Bill Dubuque
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        $begingroup$
        Further $, 2(1+4)=10 $ so $, {-}1,$ is at least a double root, so clearly $, f(n) = (n!+!1)^2(n!+!4) $
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        Let's factor it!



        $$begin{align*}n^3+6n^2+9n+4 & =n^3+6n^2+8n+n+4\ & =n(n^2+6n+8)+n+4\ & =n(n+4)(n+2)+n+4\ & =(n+4)(n^2+2n+1)\ & =(n+1)^2(n+4)end{align*}$$






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          Let's factor it!



          $$begin{align*}n^3+6n^2+9n+4 & =n^3+6n^2+8n+n+4\ & =n(n^2+6n+8)+n+4\ & =n(n+4)(n+2)+n+4\ & =(n+4)(n^2+2n+1)\ & =(n+1)^2(n+4)end{align*}$$






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            Let's factor it!



            $$begin{align*}n^3+6n^2+9n+4 & =n^3+6n^2+8n+n+4\ & =n(n^2+6n+8)+n+4\ & =n(n+4)(n+2)+n+4\ & =(n+4)(n^2+2n+1)\ & =(n+1)^2(n+4)end{align*}$$






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            Let's factor it!



            $$begin{align*}n^3+6n^2+9n+4 & =n^3+6n^2+8n+n+4\ & =n(n^2+6n+8)+n+4\ & =n(n+4)(n+2)+n+4\ & =(n+4)(n^2+2n+1)\ & =(n+1)^2(n+4)end{align*}$$







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                $$ n^3+6n^2+9n+4 = (n^3+1)+(6n^2+6n)+(3n+3)$$
                $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1)+6n(n+1)+3(n+1)=$$



                $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1+6n+3)$$
                $$ = (n+1)(n^2+5n+4) =$$ $$= (n+1)^2(n+4)$$






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                  $$ n^3+6n^2+9n+4 = (n^3+1)+(6n^2+6n)+(3n+3)$$
                  $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1)+6n(n+1)+3(n+1)=$$



                  $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1+6n+3)$$
                  $$ = (n+1)(n^2+5n+4) =$$ $$= (n+1)^2(n+4)$$






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                    $$ n^3+6n^2+9n+4 = (n^3+1)+(6n^2+6n)+(3n+3)$$
                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1)+6n(n+1)+3(n+1)=$$



                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1+6n+3)$$
                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2+5n+4) =$$ $$= (n+1)^2(n+4)$$






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                    $$ n^3+6n^2+9n+4 = (n^3+1)+(6n^2+6n)+(3n+3)$$
                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1)+6n(n+1)+3(n+1)=$$



                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2-n+1+6n+3)$$
                    $$ = (n+1)(n^2+5n+4) =$$ $$= (n+1)^2(n+4)$$







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                        The general "principle" is called Polynomial factorization. We have
                        $$
                        n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)^2(n+4).
                        $$

                        There are many interesting algorithms. In this particular example, it is enough to do the rational root test. It immediately gives that a rational root must be of the form $pm 1,pm 4$, and then you just try. For a more demanding example, then, try to factorize
                        $$
                        n^9 + 3n^7 + 3n^6 + 3n^5 + 6n^4 + 4n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1.
                        $$

                        The result is very short and nice.






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                          Thanks, Dietrich! :)
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                          Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
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                          – Wojowu
                          Jan 21 at 19:53






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                          @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
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                        $begingroup$

                        The general "principle" is called Polynomial factorization. We have
                        $$
                        n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)^2(n+4).
                        $$

                        There are many interesting algorithms. In this particular example, it is enough to do the rational root test. It immediately gives that a rational root must be of the form $pm 1,pm 4$, and then you just try. For a more demanding example, then, try to factorize
                        $$
                        n^9 + 3n^7 + 3n^6 + 3n^5 + 6n^4 + 4n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1.
                        $$

                        The result is very short and nice.






                        share|cite|improve this answer











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                        • $begingroup$
                          Thanks, Dietrich! :)
                          $endgroup$
                          – Rafael Vergnaud
                          Jan 21 at 19:53






                        • 1




                          $begingroup$
                          Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
                          $endgroup$
                          – Wojowu
                          Jan 21 at 19:53






                        • 1




                          $begingroup$
                          @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
                          $endgroup$
                          – Dietrich Burde
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                        $begingroup$

                        The general "principle" is called Polynomial factorization. We have
                        $$
                        n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)^2(n+4).
                        $$

                        There are many interesting algorithms. In this particular example, it is enough to do the rational root test. It immediately gives that a rational root must be of the form $pm 1,pm 4$, and then you just try. For a more demanding example, then, try to factorize
                        $$
                        n^9 + 3n^7 + 3n^6 + 3n^5 + 6n^4 + 4n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1.
                        $$

                        The result is very short and nice.






                        share|cite|improve this answer











                        $endgroup$



                        The general "principle" is called Polynomial factorization. We have
                        $$
                        n^3+6n^2+9n+4=(n+1)^2(n+4).
                        $$

                        There are many interesting algorithms. In this particular example, it is enough to do the rational root test. It immediately gives that a rational root must be of the form $pm 1,pm 4$, and then you just try. For a more demanding example, then, try to factorize
                        $$
                        n^9 + 3n^7 + 3n^6 + 3n^5 + 6n^4 + 4n^3 + 3n^2 + 3n + 1.
                        $$

                        The result is very short and nice.







                        share|cite|improve this answer














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                          Thanks, Dietrich! :)
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                          – Rafael Vergnaud
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                          Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
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                          – Wojowu
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                          @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
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                          Thanks, Dietrich! :)
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                          – Rafael Vergnaud
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                          $begingroup$
                          Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
                          $endgroup$
                          – Wojowu
                          Jan 21 at 19:53






                        • 1




                          $begingroup$
                          @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
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                          – Dietrich Burde
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                        Thanks, Dietrich! :)
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                        – Rafael Vergnaud
                        Jan 21 at 19:53




                        $begingroup$
                        Thanks, Dietrich! :)
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                        – Rafael Vergnaud
                        Jan 21 at 19:53




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                        $begingroup$
                        Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
                        $endgroup$
                        – Wojowu
                        Jan 21 at 19:53




                        $begingroup$
                        Surely you mean polynomial factorization???
                        $endgroup$
                        – Wojowu
                        Jan 21 at 19:53




                        1




                        1




                        $begingroup$
                        @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
                        $endgroup$
                        – Dietrich Burde
                        Jan 21 at 19:54






                        $begingroup$
                        @Wojowu Yes, was a typo, thank you. Corrected now!
                        $endgroup$
                        – Dietrich Burde
                        Jan 21 at 19:54













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                        By inspection, $1+9=6+4$ so that $-1$ is a root. Now by long division,



                        $$frac{n^3+6n^2+9n+4}{n+1}=n^2+5n+4$$ and you can use the quadratic formula.



                        Or by inspection, $-1$ is again a root and



                        $$frac{n^2+5n+1}{n+1}=n+4.$$






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                          $begingroup$

                          By inspection, $1+9=6+4$ so that $-1$ is a root. Now by long division,



                          $$frac{n^3+6n^2+9n+4}{n+1}=n^2+5n+4$$ and you can use the quadratic formula.



                          Or by inspection, $-1$ is again a root and



                          $$frac{n^2+5n+1}{n+1}=n+4.$$






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                            $begingroup$

                            By inspection, $1+9=6+4$ so that $-1$ is a root. Now by long division,



                            $$frac{n^3+6n^2+9n+4}{n+1}=n^2+5n+4$$ and you can use the quadratic formula.



                            Or by inspection, $-1$ is again a root and



                            $$frac{n^2+5n+1}{n+1}=n+4.$$






                            share|cite|improve this answer









                            $endgroup$



                            By inspection, $1+9=6+4$ so that $-1$ is a root. Now by long division,



                            $$frac{n^3+6n^2+9n+4}{n+1}=n^2+5n+4$$ and you can use the quadratic formula.



                            Or by inspection, $-1$ is again a root and



                            $$frac{n^2+5n+1}{n+1}=n+4.$$







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