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I have two matrix expression that are supposed to be the same which I don't get.



First one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & \N_pE &end{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} wend{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} -v_s\-v_pend{pmatrix} $



Second one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & -v_s\N_pE &-v_pend{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} w \ 1end{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} 0\ 0end{pmatrix} $



How is this the same?



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    As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
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I have two matrix expression that are supposed to be the same which I don't get.



First one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & \N_pE &end{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} wend{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} -v_s\-v_pend{pmatrix} $



Second one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & -v_s\N_pE &-v_pend{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} w \ 1end{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} 0\ 0end{pmatrix} $



How is this the same?



Thanks!










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    $begingroup$
    As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
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    – jmerry
    Jan 18 at 11:21














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I have two matrix expression that are supposed to be the same which I don't get.



First one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & \N_pE &end{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} wend{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} -v_s\-v_pend{pmatrix} $



Second one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & -v_s\N_pE &-v_pend{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} w \ 1end{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} 0\ 0end{pmatrix} $



How is this the same?



Thanks!










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I have two matrix expression that are supposed to be the same which I don't get.



First one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & \N_pE &end{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} wend{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} -v_s\-v_pend{pmatrix} $



Second one



$begin{pmatrix}N_sE & -v_s\N_pE &-v_pend{pmatrix} begin{pmatrix} w \ 1end{pmatrix} = begin{pmatrix} 0\ 0end{pmatrix} $



How is this the same?



Thanks!







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    $begingroup$
    As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
    $endgroup$
    – jmerry
    Jan 18 at 11:21














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
    $endgroup$
    – jmerry
    Jan 18 at 11:21








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$begingroup$
As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
$endgroup$
– jmerry
Jan 18 at 11:21




$begingroup$
As currently written, these equations aren't equivalent - you need to drop the minus sign from one copy of the "v"s. Macrophage's answer drops it from the second time they come up, but either works.
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The left hand side of the first equation is a matrix multiplied by a number so you multiply each entry of the matrix. Hence, the systems of equations represented is
$$begin{cases}
&wcdot N_sE=-v_s\
&wcdot N_pE=-v_p\
end{cases}
$$



The left hand side of the second equation is multiplication of two matrices. So you multiply row by column and get the following system of equations
$$begin{cases}
&wcdot N_sE+1cdot v_s=0\
&wcdot N_pE+1cdot v_p=0\
end{cases}
$$



Simple rearrangment shows that the two systems of equations above are equivalent.






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    $begingroup$

    The left hand side of the first equation is a matrix multiplied by a number so you multiply each entry of the matrix. Hence, the systems of equations represented is
    $$begin{cases}
    &wcdot N_sE=-v_s\
    &wcdot N_pE=-v_p\
    end{cases}
    $$



    The left hand side of the second equation is multiplication of two matrices. So you multiply row by column and get the following system of equations
    $$begin{cases}
    &wcdot N_sE+1cdot v_s=0\
    &wcdot N_pE+1cdot v_p=0\
    end{cases}
    $$



    Simple rearrangment shows that the two systems of equations above are equivalent.






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      $begingroup$

      The left hand side of the first equation is a matrix multiplied by a number so you multiply each entry of the matrix. Hence, the systems of equations represented is
      $$begin{cases}
      &wcdot N_sE=-v_s\
      &wcdot N_pE=-v_p\
      end{cases}
      $$



      The left hand side of the second equation is multiplication of two matrices. So you multiply row by column and get the following system of equations
      $$begin{cases}
      &wcdot N_sE+1cdot v_s=0\
      &wcdot N_pE+1cdot v_p=0\
      end{cases}
      $$



      Simple rearrangment shows that the two systems of equations above are equivalent.






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        $begingroup$

        The left hand side of the first equation is a matrix multiplied by a number so you multiply each entry of the matrix. Hence, the systems of equations represented is
        $$begin{cases}
        &wcdot N_sE=-v_s\
        &wcdot N_pE=-v_p\
        end{cases}
        $$



        The left hand side of the second equation is multiplication of two matrices. So you multiply row by column and get the following system of equations
        $$begin{cases}
        &wcdot N_sE+1cdot v_s=0\
        &wcdot N_pE+1cdot v_p=0\
        end{cases}
        $$



        Simple rearrangment shows that the two systems of equations above are equivalent.






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        The left hand side of the first equation is a matrix multiplied by a number so you multiply each entry of the matrix. Hence, the systems of equations represented is
        $$begin{cases}
        &wcdot N_sE=-v_s\
        &wcdot N_pE=-v_p\
        end{cases}
        $$



        The left hand side of the second equation is multiplication of two matrices. So you multiply row by column and get the following system of equations
        $$begin{cases}
        &wcdot N_sE+1cdot v_s=0\
        &wcdot N_pE+1cdot v_p=0\
        end{cases}
        $$



        Simple rearrangment shows that the two systems of equations above are equivalent.







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