How to apply d/dt to solve for equations of motion (Applying Lagrangian to Vibrations)












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In my engineering vibrations course, I am encountering derivatives that are partial as well as total. I am a little rusty and am having a really hard time grasping why the differentiation with respect to time is done differently in some scenarios.



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I circled the two confusing terms in red and green. Why is the red term using chain rule while the green term simply takes a derivative with respect to x_dot?










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    In my engineering vibrations course, I am encountering derivatives that are partial as well as total. I am a little rusty and am having a really hard time grasping why the differentiation with respect to time is done differently in some scenarios.



    Here is an example from my book:



    enter image description here



    I circled the two confusing terms in red and green. Why is the red term using chain rule while the green term simply takes a derivative with respect to x_dot?










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      In my engineering vibrations course, I am encountering derivatives that are partial as well as total. I am a little rusty and am having a really hard time grasping why the differentiation with respect to time is done differently in some scenarios.



      Here is an example from my book:



      enter image description here



      I circled the two confusing terms in red and green. Why is the red term using chain rule while the green term simply takes a derivative with respect to x_dot?










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      In my engineering vibrations course, I am encountering derivatives that are partial as well as total. I am a little rusty and am having a really hard time grasping why the differentiation with respect to time is done differently in some scenarios.



      Here is an example from my book:



      enter image description here



      I circled the two confusing terms in red and green. Why is the red term using chain rule while the green term simply takes a derivative with respect to x_dot?







      derivatives euler-lagrange-equation






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          It is
          $$ddot{x}/dt=ddot{x}$$
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          $$d(dot{x}^2)/dt=2dot{x},ddot{x}/dt=2dot{x}ddot{x}$$






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            It is
            $$ddot{x}/dt=ddot{x}$$
            but
            $$d(dot{x}^2)/dt=2dot{x},ddot{x}/dt=2dot{x}ddot{x}$$






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              It is
              $$ddot{x}/dt=ddot{x}$$
              but
              $$d(dot{x}^2)/dt=2dot{x},ddot{x}/dt=2dot{x}ddot{x}$$






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                It is
                $$ddot{x}/dt=ddot{x}$$
                but
                $$d(dot{x}^2)/dt=2dot{x},ddot{x}/dt=2dot{x}ddot{x}$$






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                but
                $$d(dot{x}^2)/dt=2dot{x},ddot{x}/dt=2dot{x}ddot{x}$$







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