Basic question: How to solve the following $2 times 2$ (block-based) linear system analytically?












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Sorry for asking basic question, but I think I have some trouble in understanding the below part. Please excuse me for asking trivial question.



Say $2 times 2$ linear system is
begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
H & A^T \
A & 0
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
x \
y
end{bmatrix}
&=
begin{bmatrix}
b \
c
end{bmatrix}
end{align}

$H in mathbb{R}^{n times n}$ is a non-singular matrix, $A in mathbb{R}^{m times n}$, $b in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$, $c in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $, the unknowns $x in mathbb{R}^{n times 1} $, and $y in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $.



Then solve for $x$ and $y$ based on
begin{align}
A H^{-1} A^T y &= -c + AH^{-1}b \
H x &= b - A^Ty .
end{align}



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How to reach to those two system of equations?










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    Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
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    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:13










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    I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
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    Jan 28 at 21:16
















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$begingroup$


Sorry for asking basic question, but I think I have some trouble in understanding the below part. Please excuse me for asking trivial question.



Say $2 times 2$ linear system is
begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
H & A^T \
A & 0
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
x \
y
end{bmatrix}
&=
begin{bmatrix}
b \
c
end{bmatrix}
end{align}

$H in mathbb{R}^{n times n}$ is a non-singular matrix, $A in mathbb{R}^{m times n}$, $b in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$, $c in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $, the unknowns $x in mathbb{R}^{n times 1} $, and $y in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $.



Then solve for $x$ and $y$ based on
begin{align}
A H^{-1} A^T y &= -c + AH^{-1}b \
H x &= b - A^Ty .
end{align}



Question:
How to reach to those two system of equations?










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  • $begingroup$
    Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:13










  • $begingroup$
    I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:16














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$begingroup$


Sorry for asking basic question, but I think I have some trouble in understanding the below part. Please excuse me for asking trivial question.



Say $2 times 2$ linear system is
begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
H & A^T \
A & 0
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
x \
y
end{bmatrix}
&=
begin{bmatrix}
b \
c
end{bmatrix}
end{align}

$H in mathbb{R}^{n times n}$ is a non-singular matrix, $A in mathbb{R}^{m times n}$, $b in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$, $c in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $, the unknowns $x in mathbb{R}^{n times 1} $, and $y in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $.



Then solve for $x$ and $y$ based on
begin{align}
A H^{-1} A^T y &= -c + AH^{-1}b \
H x &= b - A^Ty .
end{align}



Question:
How to reach to those two system of equations?










share|cite|improve this question











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Sorry for asking basic question, but I think I have some trouble in understanding the below part. Please excuse me for asking trivial question.



Say $2 times 2$ linear system is
begin{align}
begin{bmatrix}
H & A^T \
A & 0
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
x \
y
end{bmatrix}
&=
begin{bmatrix}
b \
c
end{bmatrix}
end{align}

$H in mathbb{R}^{n times n}$ is a non-singular matrix, $A in mathbb{R}^{m times n}$, $b in mathbb{R}^{n times 1}$, $c in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $, the unknowns $x in mathbb{R}^{n times 1} $, and $y in mathbb{R}^{m times 1} $.



Then solve for $x$ and $y$ based on
begin{align}
A H^{-1} A^T y &= -c + AH^{-1}b \
H x &= b - A^Ty .
end{align}



Question:
How to reach to those two system of equations?







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  • $begingroup$
    Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:13










  • $begingroup$
    I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:16


















  • $begingroup$
    Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:13










  • $begingroup$
    I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:16
















$begingroup$
Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Jan 28 at 21:13




$begingroup$
Could you give us some context? Where did you encounter this? Do you understand that the system can be rewritten as $$ Hx + A^Ty = b\ Ax = c? $$
$endgroup$
– Omnomnomnom
Jan 28 at 21:13












$begingroup$
I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
$endgroup$
– learning
Jan 28 at 21:16




$begingroup$
I Think I understand the matrix vector Products. Yes, I found this on page 12 of this slidekit see.stanford.edu/materials/lsocoee364a/11EqualityMin.pdf.
$endgroup$
– learning
Jan 28 at 21:16










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One approach is to use block-wise row-operations. That is:
$$
left[begin{array}{cc|c}
H&A^T & b\A&0&c
end{array}right] to \
left[begin{array}{cc|c}
I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\A&0&c
end{array}right] to \
left[begin{array}{cc|c}
I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\
0&-AH^{-1}A^T & c - AH^{-1}b
end{array}right]
$$

which leaves us with the system of equations
$$
x + H^{-1}A^Ty = H^{-1}b\
-AHA^Ty = c - AH^{-1}b
$$






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    I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
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    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:23










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    Thank you so much for your help
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:24



















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The system reads
$$
Hx + A^T y = b, \Ax = c
$$



If matrix $A$ was invertible, this would a trivial problem, since from the second equation we would have $x = A^{-1} c$ and the 1st equation would simply become $H A^{-1}c + A^{T}y = b Leftrightarrow y = A^{-T}(b-H A^{T}c)$. However, this is not the case... So we must manipulate the equations in such a way that we are able to isolate x and y. We are allowed to use $H^{-1}$, but not $A^{-1}$ or $A^{-T}$.



Taking the 1st equation, you get $x=H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y)$. Substituting x in the second equation, you get $A H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y) = c Leftrightarrow A H^{-1} A^{T} y = -c + A H^{-1} b $. Hope it helps!






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    $begingroup$

    One approach is to use block-wise row-operations. That is:
    $$
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    H&A^T & b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\
    0&-AH^{-1}A^T & c - AH^{-1}b
    end{array}right]
    $$

    which leaves us with the system of equations
    $$
    x + H^{-1}A^Ty = H^{-1}b\
    -AHA^Ty = c - AH^{-1}b
    $$






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      $begingroup$
      I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
      $endgroup$
      – Omnomnomnom
      Jan 28 at 21:23










    • $begingroup$
      Thank you so much for your help
      $endgroup$
      – learning
      Jan 28 at 21:24
















    1












    $begingroup$

    One approach is to use block-wise row-operations. That is:
    $$
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    H&A^T & b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\
    0&-AH^{-1}A^T & c - AH^{-1}b
    end{array}right]
    $$

    which leaves us with the system of equations
    $$
    x + H^{-1}A^Ty = H^{-1}b\
    -AHA^Ty = c - AH^{-1}b
    $$






    share|cite|improve this answer











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    • 1




      $begingroup$
      I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
      $endgroup$
      – Omnomnomnom
      Jan 28 at 21:23










    • $begingroup$
      Thank you so much for your help
      $endgroup$
      – learning
      Jan 28 at 21:24














    1












    1








    1





    $begingroup$

    One approach is to use block-wise row-operations. That is:
    $$
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    H&A^T & b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\
    0&-AH^{-1}A^T & c - AH^{-1}b
    end{array}right]
    $$

    which leaves us with the system of equations
    $$
    x + H^{-1}A^Ty = H^{-1}b\
    -AHA^Ty = c - AH^{-1}b
    $$






    share|cite|improve this answer











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    One approach is to use block-wise row-operations. That is:
    $$
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    H&A^T & b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\A&0&c
    end{array}right] to \
    left[begin{array}{cc|c}
    I& H^{-1}A^T & H^{-1}b\
    0&-AH^{-1}A^T & c - AH^{-1}b
    end{array}right]
    $$

    which leaves us with the system of equations
    $$
    x + H^{-1}A^Ty = H^{-1}b\
    -AHA^Ty = c - AH^{-1}b
    $$







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      $begingroup$
      I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
      $endgroup$
      – Omnomnomnom
      Jan 28 at 21:23










    • $begingroup$
      Thank you so much for your help
      $endgroup$
      – learning
      Jan 28 at 21:24














    • 1




      $begingroup$
      I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
      $endgroup$
      – Omnomnomnom
      Jan 28 at 21:23










    • $begingroup$
      Thank you so much for your help
      $endgroup$
      – learning
      Jan 28 at 21:24








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    $begingroup$
    I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:23




    $begingroup$
    I think this is what they mean by "elimination". The step of multiplying the first row by $H^{-1}$ is not necessary, strictly speaking
    $endgroup$
    – Omnomnomnom
    Jan 28 at 21:23












    $begingroup$
    Thank you so much for your help
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:24




    $begingroup$
    Thank you so much for your help
    $endgroup$
    – learning
    Jan 28 at 21:24











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    $begingroup$

    The system reads
    $$
    Hx + A^T y = b, \Ax = c
    $$



    If matrix $A$ was invertible, this would a trivial problem, since from the second equation we would have $x = A^{-1} c$ and the 1st equation would simply become $H A^{-1}c + A^{T}y = b Leftrightarrow y = A^{-T}(b-H A^{T}c)$. However, this is not the case... So we must manipulate the equations in such a way that we are able to isolate x and y. We are allowed to use $H^{-1}$, but not $A^{-1}$ or $A^{-T}$.



    Taking the 1st equation, you get $x=H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y)$. Substituting x in the second equation, you get $A H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y) = c Leftrightarrow A H^{-1} A^{T} y = -c + A H^{-1} b $. Hope it helps!






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      $begingroup$

      The system reads
      $$
      Hx + A^T y = b, \Ax = c
      $$



      If matrix $A$ was invertible, this would a trivial problem, since from the second equation we would have $x = A^{-1} c$ and the 1st equation would simply become $H A^{-1}c + A^{T}y = b Leftrightarrow y = A^{-T}(b-H A^{T}c)$. However, this is not the case... So we must manipulate the equations in such a way that we are able to isolate x and y. We are allowed to use $H^{-1}$, but not $A^{-1}$ or $A^{-T}$.



      Taking the 1st equation, you get $x=H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y)$. Substituting x in the second equation, you get $A H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y) = c Leftrightarrow A H^{-1} A^{T} y = -c + A H^{-1} b $. Hope it helps!






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        $begingroup$

        The system reads
        $$
        Hx + A^T y = b, \Ax = c
        $$



        If matrix $A$ was invertible, this would a trivial problem, since from the second equation we would have $x = A^{-1} c$ and the 1st equation would simply become $H A^{-1}c + A^{T}y = b Leftrightarrow y = A^{-T}(b-H A^{T}c)$. However, this is not the case... So we must manipulate the equations in such a way that we are able to isolate x and y. We are allowed to use $H^{-1}$, but not $A^{-1}$ or $A^{-T}$.



        Taking the 1st equation, you get $x=H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y)$. Substituting x in the second equation, you get $A H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y) = c Leftrightarrow A H^{-1} A^{T} y = -c + A H^{-1} b $. Hope it helps!






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        The system reads
        $$
        Hx + A^T y = b, \Ax = c
        $$



        If matrix $A$ was invertible, this would a trivial problem, since from the second equation we would have $x = A^{-1} c$ and the 1st equation would simply become $H A^{-1}c + A^{T}y = b Leftrightarrow y = A^{-T}(b-H A^{T}c)$. However, this is not the case... So we must manipulate the equations in such a way that we are able to isolate x and y. We are allowed to use $H^{-1}$, but not $A^{-1}$ or $A^{-T}$.



        Taking the 1st equation, you get $x=H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y)$. Substituting x in the second equation, you get $A H^{-1}(b-A^{T}y) = c Leftrightarrow A H^{-1} A^{T} y = -c + A H^{-1} b $. Hope it helps!







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