If $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}),$ then $(x_n)$ is convergent....












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If $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}),$ then $(x_n)$ is convergent.



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Suppose $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}).$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is convergent, it is bounded above by some upper bound $b in mathbb{N},$ that is, $x_{n_i} leq b,$ $forall i in mathbb{N}.$



Suppose $(x_n)$ is divergent. Given its monotonicity, it follows that $(x_n)$ is unbounded, that is, $forall M in mathbb{N},$ $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > M$ (at some point "$N$," the sequence passes the boundary $M$ for any boundary $M in mathbb{N}).$ If $(x_n)$ is bounded, it is necessarily the case that $(x_n),$ given that it is monotone increasing, IS convergent (you can prove this).



So, $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > b.$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is bounded above by $b,$ this means that $forall i in mathbb{N},$ $n_i < N.$



Hence, as by definition of a subsequence it is the case that $n_1 < n_2 < cdots n_i,$ the subsequence $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements (at most $N - 1$ elements).



However, a subsequence is defined as a function whose domain is the natural numbers. Given that $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements, its domain is a finite, proper subset of the natural numbers, that is, its domain is not the natural numbers. Contradiction.



Therefore, $(x_n)$ is convergent.










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  • Let ($x_n$) be a monotone sequence and contain a convergent subsequence. Prove that ($x_n$) is convergent.

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If $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}),$ then $(x_n)$ is convergent.



Demonstrating an alternative proof, please provide feedback :) Thank you.





Suppose $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}).$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is convergent, it is bounded above by some upper bound $b in mathbb{N},$ that is, $x_{n_i} leq b,$ $forall i in mathbb{N}.$



Suppose $(x_n)$ is divergent. Given its monotonicity, it follows that $(x_n)$ is unbounded, that is, $forall M in mathbb{N},$ $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > M$ (at some point "$N$," the sequence passes the boundary $M$ for any boundary $M in mathbb{N}).$ If $(x_n)$ is bounded, it is necessarily the case that $(x_n),$ given that it is monotone increasing, IS convergent (you can prove this).



So, $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > b.$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is bounded above by $b,$ this means that $forall i in mathbb{N},$ $n_i < N.$



Hence, as by definition of a subsequence it is the case that $n_1 < n_2 < cdots n_i,$ the subsequence $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements (at most $N - 1$ elements).



However, a subsequence is defined as a function whose domain is the natural numbers. Given that $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements, its domain is a finite, proper subset of the natural numbers, that is, its domain is not the natural numbers. Contradiction.



Therefore, $(x_n)$ is convergent.










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  • Let ($x_n$) be a monotone sequence and contain a convergent subsequence. Prove that ($x_n$) is convergent.

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If $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}),$ then $(x_n)$ is convergent.



Demonstrating an alternative proof, please provide feedback :) Thank you.





Suppose $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}).$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is convergent, it is bounded above by some upper bound $b in mathbb{N},$ that is, $x_{n_i} leq b,$ $forall i in mathbb{N}.$



Suppose $(x_n)$ is divergent. Given its monotonicity, it follows that $(x_n)$ is unbounded, that is, $forall M in mathbb{N},$ $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > M$ (at some point "$N$," the sequence passes the boundary $M$ for any boundary $M in mathbb{N}).$ If $(x_n)$ is bounded, it is necessarily the case that $(x_n),$ given that it is monotone increasing, IS convergent (you can prove this).



So, $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > b.$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is bounded above by $b,$ this means that $forall i in mathbb{N},$ $n_i < N.$



Hence, as by definition of a subsequence it is the case that $n_1 < n_2 < cdots n_i,$ the subsequence $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements (at most $N - 1$ elements).



However, a subsequence is defined as a function whose domain is the natural numbers. Given that $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements, its domain is a finite, proper subset of the natural numbers, that is, its domain is not the natural numbers. Contradiction.



Therefore, $(x_n)$ is convergent.










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If $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}),$ then $(x_n)$ is convergent.



Demonstrating an alternative proof, please provide feedback :) Thank you.





Suppose $(x_n)$ is monotone and contains a convergent subsequence $(x_{n_i}).$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is convergent, it is bounded above by some upper bound $b in mathbb{N},$ that is, $x_{n_i} leq b,$ $forall i in mathbb{N}.$



Suppose $(x_n)$ is divergent. Given its monotonicity, it follows that $(x_n)$ is unbounded, that is, $forall M in mathbb{N},$ $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > M$ (at some point "$N$," the sequence passes the boundary $M$ for any boundary $M in mathbb{N}).$ If $(x_n)$ is bounded, it is necessarily the case that $(x_n),$ given that it is monotone increasing, IS convergent (you can prove this).



So, $exists N in mathbb{N}$ such that $forall n geq N$ it follows that $x_n > b.$



Given that $(x_{n_i})$ is bounded above by $b,$ this means that $forall i in mathbb{N},$ $n_i < N.$



Hence, as by definition of a subsequence it is the case that $n_1 < n_2 < cdots n_i,$ the subsequence $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements (at most $N - 1$ elements).



However, a subsequence is defined as a function whose domain is the natural numbers. Given that $(x_{n_i})$ contains fewer than $N$ elements, its domain is a finite, proper subset of the natural numbers, that is, its domain is not the natural numbers. Contradiction.



Therefore, $(x_n)$ is convergent.





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    Misfire in my brain. Fixed it.
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    Thanks for pointing that out... lol
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    I fixed it!!! haha. Please do not vote to close. I wanted feedback on my potential answer.
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$begingroup$
Misfire in my brain. Fixed it.
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– Rafael Vergnaud
Jan 28 at 23:14




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Misfire in my brain. Fixed it.
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Jan 28 at 23:14












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Thanks for pointing that out... lol
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– Rafael Vergnaud
Jan 28 at 23:14




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Thanks for pointing that out... lol
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– Rafael Vergnaud
Jan 28 at 23:14












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I fixed it!!! haha. Please do not vote to close. I wanted feedback on my potential answer.
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– Rafael Vergnaud
Jan 28 at 23:14




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I fixed it!!! haha. Please do not vote to close. I wanted feedback on my potential answer.
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If $x_n$ did not converge then, by monotonicity, $x_n$ would be unbounded, in particular $x_n - 1 > x = lim x_{n_i}$ for all $n geq n_0,$ for some $n_0.$ But there exists a firs $i_0$ such that $n_i geq n_0$ for all $i geq i_0,$ and so $x_{n_i} geq x + 1$ for all $i geq i_0,$ a contradiction. Q.E.D.






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    If $x_n$ did not converge then, by monotonicity, $x_n$ would be unbounded, in particular $x_n - 1 > x = lim x_{n_i}$ for all $n geq n_0,$ for some $n_0.$ But there exists a firs $i_0$ such that $n_i geq n_0$ for all $i geq i_0,$ and so $x_{n_i} geq x + 1$ for all $i geq i_0,$ a contradiction. Q.E.D.






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      If $x_n$ did not converge then, by monotonicity, $x_n$ would be unbounded, in particular $x_n - 1 > x = lim x_{n_i}$ for all $n geq n_0,$ for some $n_0.$ But there exists a firs $i_0$ such that $n_i geq n_0$ for all $i geq i_0,$ and so $x_{n_i} geq x + 1$ for all $i geq i_0,$ a contradiction. Q.E.D.






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        If $x_n$ did not converge then, by monotonicity, $x_n$ would be unbounded, in particular $x_n - 1 > x = lim x_{n_i}$ for all $n geq n_0,$ for some $n_0.$ But there exists a firs $i_0$ such that $n_i geq n_0$ for all $i geq i_0,$ and so $x_{n_i} geq x + 1$ for all $i geq i_0,$ a contradiction. Q.E.D.






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        If $x_n$ did not converge then, by monotonicity, $x_n$ would be unbounded, in particular $x_n - 1 > x = lim x_{n_i}$ for all $n geq n_0,$ for some $n_0.$ But there exists a firs $i_0$ such that $n_i geq n_0$ for all $i geq i_0,$ and so $x_{n_i} geq x + 1$ for all $i geq i_0,$ a contradiction. Q.E.D.







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