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For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-A/c}]$ but unsure what that is. I am stuck on the second.










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Why would $mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)=mathsf E(e^{-1X/z})$ ? Where did the $X$ and $z$ come from?
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    For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-1X/z}]$ but unsure what that is.




    When did random variable $X$ and constant $z$ enter into the discussion?



    However, it is that: $$begin{align}mathsf P(Cleqslant c)&=mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)\&=mathsf E(mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/cmid A))\&=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})end{align}$$



    The rest is just evaluating the expectation: $mathsf E(g(A))=int_Bbb R f_A(a)~g(a)~mathsf d a$ $$mathsf E(e^{-A/c})=int_0^infty e^{-a}~e^{-a/c}~mathsf d a$$




    I am stuck on the second.




    Second verse, much the same as the first.



    Hint: it is a peicewise function partitioned on the magnitude of $c$.   Consider the cases $0<c< 1$ and $1leqslant c$






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    • $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
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    • I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
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            For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-1X/z}]$ but unsure what that is.




            When did random variable $X$ and constant $z$ enter into the discussion?



            However, it is that: $$begin{align}mathsf P(Cleqslant c)&=mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)\&=mathsf E(mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/cmid A))\&=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})end{align}$$



            The rest is just evaluating the expectation: $mathsf E(g(A))=int_Bbb R f_A(a)~g(a)~mathsf d a$ $$mathsf E(e^{-A/c})=int_0^infty e^{-a}~e^{-a/c}~mathsf d a$$




            I am stuck on the second.




            Second verse, much the same as the first.



            Hint: it is a peicewise function partitioned on the magnitude of $c$.   Consider the cases $0<c< 1$ and $1leqslant c$






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            • So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
              – j doe
              2 days ago










            • $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago












            • I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago

















            up vote
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            For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-1X/z}]$ but unsure what that is.




            When did random variable $X$ and constant $z$ enter into the discussion?



            However, it is that: $$begin{align}mathsf P(Cleqslant c)&=mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)\&=mathsf E(mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/cmid A))\&=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})end{align}$$



            The rest is just evaluating the expectation: $mathsf E(g(A))=int_Bbb R f_A(a)~g(a)~mathsf d a$ $$mathsf E(e^{-A/c})=int_0^infty e^{-a}~e^{-a/c}~mathsf d a$$




            I am stuck on the second.




            Second verse, much the same as the first.



            Hint: it is a peicewise function partitioned on the magnitude of $c$.   Consider the cases $0<c< 1$ and $1leqslant c$






            share|cite|improve this answer





















            • So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
              – j doe
              2 days ago










            • $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago












            • I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago















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            up vote
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            For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-1X/z}]$ but unsure what that is.




            When did random variable $X$ and constant $z$ enter into the discussion?



            However, it is that: $$begin{align}mathsf P(Cleqslant c)&=mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)\&=mathsf E(mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/cmid A))\&=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})end{align}$$



            The rest is just evaluating the expectation: $mathsf E(g(A))=int_Bbb R f_A(a)~g(a)~mathsf d a$ $$mathsf E(e^{-A/c})=int_0^infty e^{-a}~e^{-a/c}~mathsf d a$$




            I am stuck on the second.




            Second verse, much the same as the first.



            Hint: it is a peicewise function partitioned on the magnitude of $c$.   Consider the cases $0<c< 1$ and $1leqslant c$






            share|cite|improve this answer













            For the first one, I think that $P(C⩽c)=P(B⩾A/c)=E[e^{-1X/z}]$ but unsure what that is.




            When did random variable $X$ and constant $z$ enter into the discussion?



            However, it is that: $$begin{align}mathsf P(Cleqslant c)&=mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/c)\&=mathsf E(mathsf P(Bgeqslant A/cmid A))\&=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})end{align}$$



            The rest is just evaluating the expectation: $mathsf E(g(A))=int_Bbb R f_A(a)~g(a)~mathsf d a$ $$mathsf E(e^{-A/c})=int_0^infty e^{-a}~e^{-a/c}~mathsf d a$$




            I am stuck on the second.




            Second verse, much the same as the first.



            Hint: it is a peicewise function partitioned on the magnitude of $c$.   Consider the cases $0<c< 1$ and $1leqslant c$







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            • So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
              – j doe
              2 days ago










            • $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago












            • I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago




















            • So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
              – j doe
              2 days ago










            • $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago












            • I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
              – j doe
              2 days ago












            • No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
              – Graham Kemp
              2 days ago


















            So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
            – j doe
            2 days ago






            So to be clear for the first one: 𝖤(e^−A/c) is the CDF and then would the pdf just be e^(-a)*e^(-a/c)?
            – j doe
            2 days ago














            Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
            – j doe
            2 days ago




            Also for the second, would you be able to help with what the partitions are?
            – j doe
            2 days ago












            $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
            – Graham Kemp
            2 days ago






            $mathsf P(Cleqslant c)=mathsf E(e^{-A/c})$ is the CDF of $C$. The pdf of $C$ is the derivative of that with respect to $c$. (Also, I clued you in on what the partitions should be. Consider those cases.)
            – Graham Kemp
            2 days ago














            I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
            – j doe
            2 days ago






            I am saying that if E(e^-A/c) is the CDF -- and that is the integral of some function f(a) -- can't I just say that f(a) (ie: the thing being integrated) is the PDF?
            – j doe
            2 days ago














            No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
            – Graham Kemp
            2 days ago






            No, since the integral is not with respect to $c$.
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