Find constant $k$ in matrix so that matrix $A$ is orthogonal











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Find constant $kin mathbb{R}$ in matrix so that matrix $A$ is orthogonal when:



$$ A = begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix} $$



Attempt to solve



A matrix is orthogonal when $AA^T=A^TA=I$, where $I$ is identity matrix. By utilizing this fact we should be able to solve constant k



$$ begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 & 2 \ -1 & 3 & -1 \ -7 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



$$ begin{bmatrix} 51 & 5 & 3-7k \ 5 & 11 & -k -1 \ 3-7k & -k-1 & k^2+5 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



It looks like something that could not be solved, but am i simply wrong ?










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  • Check your question!
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    I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
    – Tuki
    2 days ago






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    It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
    – gimusi
    2 days ago








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    Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago












  • short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago















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Problem



Find constant $kin mathbb{R}$ in matrix so that matrix $A$ is orthogonal when:



$$ A = begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix} $$



Attempt to solve



A matrix is orthogonal when $AA^T=A^TA=I$, where $I$ is identity matrix. By utilizing this fact we should be able to solve constant k



$$ begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 & 2 \ -1 & 3 & -1 \ -7 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



$$ begin{bmatrix} 51 & 5 & 3-7k \ 5 & 11 & -k -1 \ 3-7k & -k-1 & k^2+5 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



It looks like something that could not be solved, but am i simply wrong ?










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  • Check your question!
    – gimusi
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
    – Tuki
    2 days ago






  • 1




    It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
    – gimusi
    2 days ago








  • 2




    Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago












  • short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago













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down vote

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Problem



Find constant $kin mathbb{R}$ in matrix so that matrix $A$ is orthogonal when:



$$ A = begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix} $$



Attempt to solve



A matrix is orthogonal when $AA^T=A^TA=I$, where $I$ is identity matrix. By utilizing this fact we should be able to solve constant k



$$ begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 & 2 \ -1 & 3 & -1 \ -7 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



$$ begin{bmatrix} 51 & 5 & 3-7k \ 5 & 11 & -k -1 \ 3-7k & -k-1 & k^2+5 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



It looks like something that could not be solved, but am i simply wrong ?










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Problem



Find constant $kin mathbb{R}$ in matrix so that matrix $A$ is orthogonal when:



$$ A = begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix} $$



Attempt to solve



A matrix is orthogonal when $AA^T=A^TA=I$, where $I$ is identity matrix. By utilizing this fact we should be able to solve constant k



$$ begin{bmatrix} 1 & -1 & -7 \ 1 & 3 & -1 \ 2 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}begin{bmatrix} 1 & 1 & 2 \ -1 & 3 & -1 \ -7 & -1 & k end{bmatrix}=begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



$$ begin{bmatrix} 51 & 5 & 3-7k \ 5 & 11 & -k -1 \ 3-7k & -k-1 & k^2+5 end{bmatrix} = begin{bmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 \ 0 & 1 & 0 \ 0 & 0 & 1 end{bmatrix} $$



It looks like something that could not be solved, but am i simply wrong ?







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  • Check your question!
    – gimusi
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
    – Tuki
    2 days ago






  • 1




    It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
    – gimusi
    2 days ago








  • 2




    Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago












  • short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago


















  • Check your question!
    – gimusi
    2 days ago






  • 1




    I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
    – Tuki
    2 days ago






  • 1




    It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
    – gimusi
    2 days ago








  • 2




    Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago












  • short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
    – Will Jagy
    2 days ago
















Check your question!
– gimusi
2 days ago




Check your question!
– gimusi
2 days ago




1




1




I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
– Tuki
2 days ago




I don't think i understand what you mean ? @gimusi
– Tuki
2 days ago




1




1




It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
– gimusi
2 days ago






It seems that your question can't be "Find constant k in matrix so that matrix A is orthogonal". Are you sure that the question is not different?
– gimusi
2 days ago






2




2




Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
– Will Jagy
2 days ago






Tuki, you are not using the word "orthogonal " consistently. There is a value of $k$ that makes the COLUMNS of your matrix pairwise orthogonal. In order to get an orthogonal matrix, you must then divide the columns by, let's see, $sqrt 6,$ then $sqrt {11}$ for the middle column, and a different square root for the thrid column
– Will Jagy
2 days ago














short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
– Will Jagy
2 days ago




short version: each column in an orthogonal matrix, considered as a vector, has length exactly one.
– Will Jagy
2 days ago















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