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How do I understand the module structure on Yoneda Ext?
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Suppose $R$ is a (commutative) ring, and $M$ and $N$ are (finitely generated) $R$-modules. Then I know each $mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ has the structure of an $R$-module. On the other hand, via Yoneda's description of Ext, each $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ corresponds to an equivalence class of exact sequences starting with $N$ and ending with $M$. My question is this: suppose $r in R$ and $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$. How can I understand $r varepsilon$ in terms of $varepsilon$? To what extension does $r varepsilon$ correspond?
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Suppose $R$ is a (commutative) ring, and $M$ and $N$ are (finitely generated) $R$-modules. Then I know each $mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ has the structure of an $R$-module. On the other hand, via Yoneda's description of Ext, each $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ corresponds to an equivalence class of exact sequences starting with $N$ and ending with $M$. My question is this: suppose $r in R$ and $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$. How can I understand $r varepsilon$ in terms of $varepsilon$? To what extension does $r varepsilon$ correspond?
homological-algebra
asked 2 days ago
Eric Canton
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Suppose $R$ is a (commutative) ring, and $M$ and $N$ are (finitely generated) $R$-modules. Then I know each $mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ has the structure of an $R$-module. On the other hand, via Yoneda's description of Ext, each $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ corresponds to an equivalence class of exact sequences starting with $N$ and ending with $M$. My question is this: suppose $r in R$ and $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$. How can I understand $r varepsilon$ in terms of $varepsilon$? To what extension does $r varepsilon$ correspond?
homological-algebra
asked 2 days ago
Eric Canton
306110
Suppose $R$ is a (commutative) ring, and $M$ and $N$ are (finitely generated) $R$-modules. Then I know each $mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ has the structure of an $R$-module. On the other hand, via Yoneda's description of Ext, each $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$ corresponds to an equivalence class of exact sequences starting with $N$ and ending with $M$. My question is this: suppose $r in R$ and $varepsilon in mathrm{Ext}_R^i(M, N)$. How can I understand $r varepsilon$ in terms of $varepsilon$? To what extension does $r varepsilon$ correspond?
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we can just see the case $i=1$:
In general,if $M$ is $A-B$ bimodule(i.e.left $A$ module and right $B$ module and $(am)b=a(mb)$),N is $A-C$ bimodule,then $Ext^1(M,N)$ is a $B-C$ bimodule.the structure of left $B$ and right $C$ module as follows:
if $delta:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is a short exact sequence in left $A$-modules.$forall bin B$,there is a left $A$-module homomorphism $varphi_b:Mrightarrow M$ by senting $m$ to $mb$.take pullback with $varphi_b$ and $g$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $bcdot delta$.
similarly,if $forall cin C$,take pushout with natural right multiplication $psi_c:Nrightarrow N$ and $f$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $deltacdot c$.
it is easy to Check this: structre of left $B$ module and right $C$ module has associativity.
As follows:
Then $varphi_a=alpha^-$ is using the unique map induced by kernel.
Now we consider the commutative case,we only need to check $rcdot varepsilon=varepsiloncdot r$,suppose $varepsilon:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is
a short exact sequence in $R-Mod$.Since $R$ is commutative ring,we have pullback diagram:
so $varepsilon= rcdotvarepsilon$,similarly $varepsilon =varepsiloncdot r$.we are done.
for $i>1$,the same.
answered 2 days ago
Sky
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Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
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– Sky
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
we can just see the case $i=1$:
In general,if $M$ is $A-B$ bimodule(i.e.left $A$ module and right $B$ module and $(am)b=a(mb)$),N is $A-C$ bimodule,then $Ext^1(M,N)$ is a $B-C$ bimodule.the structure of left $B$ and right $C$ module as follows:
if $delta:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is a short exact sequence in left $A$-modules.$forall bin B$,there is a left $A$-module homomorphism $varphi_b:Mrightarrow M$ by senting $m$ to $mb$.take pullback with $varphi_b$ and $g$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $bcdot delta$.
similarly,if $forall cin C$,take pushout with natural right multiplication $psi_c:Nrightarrow N$ and $f$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $deltacdot c$.
it is easy to Check this: structre of left $B$ module and right $C$ module has associativity.
As follows:
Then $varphi_a=alpha^-$ is using the unique map induced by kernel.
Now we consider the commutative case,we only need to check $rcdot varepsilon=varepsiloncdot r$,suppose $varepsilon:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is
a short exact sequence in $R-Mod$.Since $R$ is commutative ring,we have pullback diagram:
so $varepsilon= rcdotvarepsilon$,similarly $varepsilon =varepsiloncdot r$.we are done.
for $i>1$,the same.
answered 2 days ago
Sky
1,193212
Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
we can just see the case $i=1$:
In general,if $M$ is $A-B$ bimodule(i.e.left $A$ module and right $B$ module and $(am)b=a(mb)$),N is $A-C$ bimodule,then $Ext^1(M,N)$ is a $B-C$ bimodule.the structure of left $B$ and right $C$ module as follows:
if $delta:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is a short exact sequence in left $A$-modules.$forall bin B$,there is a left $A$-module homomorphism $varphi_b:Mrightarrow M$ by senting $m$ to $mb$.take pullback with $varphi_b$ and $g$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $bcdot delta$.
similarly,if $forall cin C$,take pushout with natural right multiplication $psi_c:Nrightarrow N$ and $f$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $deltacdot c$.
it is easy to Check this: structre of left $B$ module and right $C$ module has associativity.
As follows:
Then $varphi_a=alpha^-$ is using the unique map induced by kernel.
Now we consider the commutative case,we only need to check $rcdot varepsilon=varepsiloncdot r$,suppose $varepsilon:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is
a short exact sequence in $R-Mod$.Since $R$ is commutative ring,we have pullback diagram:
so $varepsilon= rcdotvarepsilon$,similarly $varepsilon =varepsiloncdot r$.we are done.
for $i>1$,the same.
answered 2 days ago
Sky
1,193212
Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
we can just see the case $i=1$:
In general,if $M$ is $A-B$ bimodule(i.e.left $A$ module and right $B$ module and $(am)b=a(mb)$),N is $A-C$ bimodule,then $Ext^1(M,N)$ is a $B-C$ bimodule.the structure of left $B$ and right $C$ module as follows:
if $delta:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is a short exact sequence in left $A$-modules.$forall bin B$,there is a left $A$-module homomorphism $varphi_b:Mrightarrow M$ by senting $m$ to $mb$.take pullback with $varphi_b$ and $g$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $bcdot delta$.
similarly,if $forall cin C$,take pushout with natural right multiplication $psi_c:Nrightarrow N$ and $f$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $deltacdot c$.
it is easy to Check this: structre of left $B$ module and right $C$ module has associativity.
As follows:
Then $varphi_a=alpha^-$ is using the unique map induced by kernel.
Now we consider the commutative case,we only need to check $rcdot varepsilon=varepsiloncdot r$,suppose $varepsilon:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is
a short exact sequence in $R-Mod$.Since $R$ is commutative ring,we have pullback diagram:
so $varepsilon= rcdotvarepsilon$,similarly $varepsilon =varepsiloncdot r$.we are done.
for $i>1$,the same.
answered 2 days ago
Sky
1,193212
we can just see the case $i=1$:
In general,if $M$ is $A-B$ bimodule(i.e.left $A$ module and right $B$ module and $(am)b=a(mb)$),N is $A-C$ bimodule,then $Ext^1(M,N)$ is a $B-C$ bimodule.the structure of left $B$ and right $C$ module as follows:
if $delta:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is a short exact sequence in left $A$-modules.$forall bin B$,there is a left $A$-module homomorphism $varphi_b:Mrightarrow M$ by senting $m$ to $mb$.take pullback with $varphi_b$ and $g$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $bcdot delta$.
similarly,if $forall cin C$,take pushout with natural right multiplication $psi_c:Nrightarrow N$ and $f$,we get an element in $Ext^1(N,M)$ this is $deltacdot c$.
it is easy to Check this: structre of left $B$ module and right $C$ module has associativity.
As follows:
Then $varphi_a=alpha^-$ is using the unique map induced by kernel.
Now we consider the commutative case,we only need to check $rcdot varepsilon=varepsiloncdot r$,suppose $varepsilon:0rightarrow Nxrightarrow f Xxrightarrow g Mrightarrow 0$ is
a short exact sequence in $R-Mod$.Since $R$ is commutative ring,we have pullback diagram:
so $varepsilon= rcdotvarepsilon$,similarly $varepsilon =varepsiloncdot r$.we are done.
for $i>1$,the same.
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Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
add a comment |
Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
Thanks for your comment, this is very helpful. It is still somewhat unclear to me what happens for higher Exts, though. Is there some way to extend what you have written? I'm happy to go read on my own, if there is some source that describes how to take this structure on Ext^1 and deduce the structure on Ext^i.
– Eric Canton
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
@EricCanton GTM4
– Sky
yesterday
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